The Carnelle Forest from Viarmes

The Carnelle National Forest is a forest located on a hill 25 km north of Paris. Its summit (altitude 210 m) is one of the highest points in the Val d'Oise. The variety of its landscapes makes it one of the most pleasant sites in the region.
This hike follows part of the northern flank of the forest, allowing you to discover some interesting features of the forest and its surroundings.

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    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 14.89 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 5h 10 
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    Difficulty: Moderate

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 319 m
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    Descent: - 312 m

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    Highest point: 211 m
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    Lowest point: 57 m
  • ⚐ Country: France
  • ⚐ District: Viarmes (95270)
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    Start/End: N 49.126061° / E 2.368718°
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    IGN map(s): Ref. 2313OT, 2412OT
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Description of the walk

The walk starts from the Place de la Mairie in Viarmes in the Val d'Oise.
You can get there either by car and park in the Place de la Mairie itself or in the surrounding streets on busy days (market day), or by RER, with Viarmes station about 1 km from the town centre.

(S) Take Rue de la Grange to the left of the town hall, then turn left into Rue de l'Étang and cross the park towards the college. Go around it on the left, taking Rue de la Fontaine d'Amour.
When you reach the private car park (on a slope on the right), turn left. The path begins with a tarmac section about 30 metres long and continues as a steeply ascending footpath. At the fork, towards the top of the hill, continue to the right.

(1) At the crossroads with the tarmac Princes road, turn right at the Chantilly Forest Road barrier and take the markedGR® trail downhill.

(2) When the path joins the paved road at the "Carrefour de la Seigneurie", turn left to pass in front of the houses lining Rue de Cat Rouge.

(3) Admire the Château de la Reine Blanche, then continue along Rue du Cat Rouge until you reach Rue de l'Orme.
Turn left into the cul-de-sac and continue along Chemin de l'Orme, which continues along the same path (markedGR®). The path alternates between meadows and copses. Note the alpaca farm as you pass by.
After passing a farm, the path joins a paved road. Turn right to reach the centre of Noisy-sur-Oise and head towards the church.

(4) At the church (beautiful view of the Oise valley), take Rue de l'Égalité, which climbs up to the left, then continue along Rue Pasteur at the crossroads.

(5) Note the well set into the façade of No. 8 and continue towards the centre of the village.
At the crossroads, turn right onto Rue de Bossang (you are now back on theGR®). After about 50 metres, turn right and the road climbs steadily towards the plateau. From the junction with a dirt track, the road is no longer paved (it becomes a carriageway for 200 to 300 metres), continue climbing, the path runs alongside an orchard and enters the forest after passing under some high-voltage power lines.

(6) Continue straight ahead, making sure you follow theGR® markers. The path crosses several trails and climbs to a clearing with a signpost in the centre, where you will find the RF du Ringuet.
Cross this crossroads diagonally to the left and take this paved road marked GR®. Follow it to a paved road where you turn right. After about 30 metres, cross it and take thePR® marked path on the left which descends.

When you reach the tarmac road, turn right twice to reach the edge of Lac Bleu.
If you have time before continuing the hike, take a walk around the two ponds, which is very pleasant (Lac Bleu and Petit Etang ).

(7) Follow the lake shore heading west, at the end turn left towards the car park and cross it, heading towards the signpost in the centre of the roundabout a hundred metres further on.
Cross the roundabout and continue along the RF de la Touffe, which is also marked GR®. Follow it until you reach the tarmac road of La Pierre Turquoise. Turn right at the crossroads.
About 200 metres further down, level with the car park, under the trees on the left, is the Pierre Turquoise, a Neolithic funerary megalith.
A sign provides information about this monument.

(8) Return to the Route de la Pierre Turquoise and continue the hike uphill, following this road until the first crossroads.

(9) Be careful at the crossroads, as the paved road turns left. Opposite, the dirt road is still called Route de la Pierre Turquoise. The road that crosses it is called Route de Franconville. It is paved on the left of the crossroads and dirt on the right.

(9) Turn right onto Route de Franconville (unpaved) and follow it until you reach a large masonry fence, then turn left.
Follow this wall without getting impatient, as it is very long, until you reach the Saint-Martin-du-Tertre cemetery.
Cross the car park between the buildings. As you pass, you will see the tower of Claude Chappe's former telegraph station.

(10) Cross the road and take the path that goes downhill. Be very careful as this path is rutted in places and can be very slippery in wet weather.
The path ends at an unpaved road lined with properties, the first of which is called "La Cosita". Follow this road straight ahead until it meets a paved road and continue straight ahead.
The bell tower of the church in Viarmes is now visible. Continue straight ahead to rejoin the original route next to the school and then the town hall square (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 58 m - Viarmes Town Hall
  2. 1 : km 1.21 - alt. 116 m - Rond de Chantilly
  3. 2 : km 1.61 - alt. 72 m - Carrefour de la Seignerie
  4. 3 : km 2.07 - alt. 65 m - Château de la Reine Blanche
  5. 4 : km 4.34 - alt. 76 m - Church of Asnières-sur-Oise
  6. 5 : km 4.59 - alt. 91 m - Well
  7. 6 : km 5.58 - alt. 150 m - Edge of the forest
  8. 7 : km 7.39 - alt. 161 m - Blue Lake
  9. 8 : km 9.03 - alt. 113 m - Allée couverte de la Pierre Turquaise
  10. 9 : km 10.13 - alt. 149 m - Franconville Road
  11. 10 : km 11.85 - alt. 200 m - Chappe telegraph
  12. S/E : km 14.89 - alt. 58 m - Viarme Town Hall

Notes

Good walking shoes are essential.
The forest, and of course the paths, are very damp due to the nature of the soil and the presence of numerous springs. Expect to return quite muddy.

Worth a visit

(3) The Château de la Reine Blanche:
It is so named because of the visits of Blanche of Castile.

(5) The well of Noisy-sur-Oise:
It is located at 8 Rue Pasteur. Its pediment bears the inscription "Despite the envious, we are victorious".

(8) The Turquoise Stone (Allée couverte de la Pierre Turquoise):
This is a Neolithic funerary megalith which is unfortunately badly damaged. It was almost completely destroyed in 1985 following an explosion.
Further information is available on the Val d'Oise department website. (www.valdoise.fr)

(7) The Lac Bleu and Petit Etang are artificial lakes created in former quarries.

(10) Claude Chappe's Telegraph:
The first official experiment in aerial optical transmission took place on 12 July 1793 between Ménilmontant and Saint-Martin-du-Tertre.
Documentation can be requested from the Ecouen Tourist Office.

Also worth seeing nearby:

  • Royaumont Abbey.
  • The Château d'Ecouen (Renaissance Museum).

Always be cautious and plan ahead when you're outdoors. Visorando and the author of this route cannot be held responsible for any accidents occurring on this route.

The GR® and PR® markings are the intellectual property of the Fédération Française de Randonnée Pédestre.

Reviews and comments

4.5 / 5
Based on 64 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.4 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.6 / 5
Route interest
4.5 / 5
natdu
natdu

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Mar 21, 2026
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A lovely walk through the forest, passing through villages (Asnière-sur-Oise, Noisy-sur-Oise, Saint-Martin-du-Tertre), sunflower fields and meadows. The elevation changes are unusual for the Île-de-France region. At times, you might imagine you’re in a forest in the foothills of a small mountain range. We had blue skies all day. As a result, there was hardly any mud as it hadn’t rained much over the last few days. Picnic at the Carnelle crossroads.
We had a truly lovely day. This forest is absolutely beautiful.

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mgerard
mgerard

Overall rating : 3.7 / 5

Date of your route : Dec 15, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average
Very busy route : No

Be mindful of hunting seasons

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ggcc
ggcc
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Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 09, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

Varied
Shaded for hot weather

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BD4-1993
BD4-1993
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Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Mar 09, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : Yes

Do this in dry weather for a pleasant hike with some nice hills.
Indeed, at the end of the route, the descent to Viarmes could prove difficult in heavy rain.

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carole
carole

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 26, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average
Very busy route : No

It's not the most beautiful part of the Carnelles forest, but the hike went smoothly.
but thanks anyway to whoever came up with the route.

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michal
michal

Overall rating : 3.7 / 5

Date of your route : Feb 20, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average
Very busy route : No

A bit of confusion finding the turquoise stone, but otherwise good explanations.
However, the path was quite dangerous due to mud, very slippery and lots of ruts, obstructed by tree branches. We had to follow the path on the side of the road at times.
It's better to do this hike in summer to avoid these problems.

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Phiou
Phiou

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 20, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Beautiful hike with very varied landscapes. Be sure to turn around at the turquoise stone.

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Shafigh
Shafigh

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 04, 2023
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Very good experience, quite a bit of elevation gain (442 m total from the station). Easy to find with GPS. PLEASE NOTE: as you approach the finish, on the last section of the trail in the forest, the path is blocked by fallen trees over a 5m stretch. It is possible to get around them on the right, but this is not easy for everyone (there is a 1.5m slope with dense vegetation and the crossing point is not very visible, about 10-20m before the obstacle).

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CACOIN
CACOIN

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 04, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

VERY BEAUTIFUL HIKE, THE SIGNPOSTING IS FAIRLY CLEAR. QUITE A LOT OF CLIMBING BUT WE ARE IN THE CARNELLE FOREST.
THE TRAIL IS QUITE SHADY, SO NO PROBLEM IN SUMMER.
I RECOMMEND IT.

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CACOIN
CACOIN

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 26, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A pleasant hike, mainly through countryside and woodland. There are a few climbs when you reach Carnelle Forest to get to the ponds.
The route signs are sometimes hidden by vegetation.
I recommend it.

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Sylvain49
Sylvain49

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 13, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

A very pleasant walk. Accessible by train, lunch by the lake, beautiful views... highly recommended.

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Eliane19
Eliane19

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jan 01, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : Not used / Not applicable
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very pleasant hike with plenty of variety, passing through forests, fields and meadows and villages.
Accessible: we did this hike using public transport from Paris, travelling to Viarmes station.
At the start of point 10: cross the road and keep to your left. The path that descends is a forest track that starts from a small car park.

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Alanax
Alanax

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 16, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

A pleasant hike, mostly shaded, relatively easy despite the elevation gain, and interesting for its sights.
Between points 1 and 8, the paths are all marked GR, including in Noisy sur Oise.

However, please note:
On Chemin de l'Elme, you need to turn right fairly quickly (see the map) to avoid ending up in a field.
At the end of point 3, turn left towards Noisy as indicated on the map and not right as described.
At point 4, the street that goes up to the left of the church in Noisy sur Oise is Rue Paul Bert (Rue de l'Egalité starts a little higher up and should not be taken).
Between points 6 and 7, continue to follow the GR (at a crossroads, turn left to reach the clearing and the signpost).
At point 10, follow the path downhill to the end (marked PR on the first part and unmarked thereafter).

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Allain Chantal
Allain Chantal

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 24, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Please note that number 4 is missing from the description, which means we have to retrace our steps.
What a shame! We'll do it again.

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Alain Nectoux
Alain Nectoux

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Mar 08, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Magnificent, the trees are majestic (lots of large oak trees), the route is very pleasant with beautiful views of the Oise, plus picnics by the ponds and a visit to the megaliths, it's the whole package.

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