Le Vieux Craonne and the Chemin de Saint-Rémi

On the Chemin des Dames, where so many tears were shed, cross the village of Vieux Craonne, destroyed in 1917, with its ruins and commemorative trees.
Then cross the woods, walk along the hillsides and fields, and a vineyard on the outskirts of Craonnelle... to soak up the atmosphere of these places steeped in the history of the Great War.

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
  • ↔
    Distance: 6.54 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 2h 25 
  • ▲
    Difficulty: Moderate

  • ⚐
    Back to start: Yes
  • ↗
    Ascent: + 178 m
  • ↘
    Descent: - 186 m

  • ▲
    Highest point: 163 m
  • ▼
    Lowest point: 82 m
  • ⚐ Country: France
  • ⚐ District: Craonne (02160)
  • ⚑
    Start/End: N 49.445683° / E 3.789472°
  • ❏
    IGN map(s): Ref. 2711E, 2711O
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Description of the walk

The starting point is at the car park of the Vieux Craonne arboretum.

(S) Cross the D18CD with caution. At the general sign showing the route, take the path on the left to go around the ruins of the old church. Continue downhill to the left via a series of steps and bends.

After passing through the ruins of the old Craone, you will be guided by numerous information boards explaining the sites and tree names.

(1) Continue straight ahead along the Chemin d'Oulches, which extends the old Rue de la Pissote, where you will notice the old paving in places.

(2) Leave the path on the left, which will be the return route, and continue straight ahead until you reach a crossroads. Turn left into the woods.

(3) At the next crossroads, take the path that climbs to the right and follow the blue and yellow markings.

(4) Leave the path, climb up to the right and follow the edge of the forest along the path that climbs steeply towards the south-west.

(5) Climb the steep slope to reach the edge of the plateau. Walk along the left side of the plateau, following the path at the edge of the forest and the field, first heading south and then west.

(6) Join the rural path that descends to the left towards Craonnelle, then after about 400 metres, turn left towards the east. Join the D18CD and follow it to the left.

(7) Before the "Craonne" sign, leave the road and turn left to follow the blue and yellow signs.
Then, after about 240 metres, turn left onto a perpendicular path that runs alongside a market garden. Then turn immediately right towards the hillside and the brick and concrete wash house. Once at the wash house, turn around, follow the blue and yellow markings to the left and, at the next crossroads, turn left again to rejoin the path you took on the way there.

(2) Turn right and continue to the next junction.

(1) Turn right to join the D18CD, which you follow to the left. At the crossroads, turn left to return to the car park.

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 136 m - Ancien Craonne
  2. 1 : km 0.52 - alt. 118 m - Chemin d'Oulches
  3. 2 : km 0.9 - alt. 142 m - At the intersection, continue straight ahead.
  4. 3 : km 1.82 - alt. 124 m - At the crossroads, turn right.
  5. 4 : km 2.25 - alt. 110 m - Leave the path and climb to the right.
  6. 5 : km 2.58 - alt. 150 m - The edge of the plateau
  7. 6 : km 2.89 - alt. 163 m - Country lane, turn left
  8. 7 : km 4.41 - alt. 83 m - Turn left towards Oratoire and Lavoir
  9. S/E : km 6.54 - alt. 136 m

Notes

Part of the route is off-trail: pay close attention to the description and follow the GPS track. Wear hiking boots.

If you have followed this walk, please send us your comments (descriptions, photos, etc.).

Worth a visit

During the hike:
Discover the remains of the completely destroyed village of Vieux Craonne: the site of the old church, the old cobbled street of La Pissote, the arboretum and the Beech of Peace.
A variety of natural sites: woods, fields, hillsides, vineyards, market gardens, etc. Small heritage sites: oratory, wash house, etc.

Nearby:
The observation tower and bunker on the Californie plateau.
The Old Craonne cemetery,
The Napoleon monument,
The Dragon's Cave, Chemin des Dames Museum
The Basques Monument.

Reviews and comments

4 / 5
Based on 13 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.2 / 5
Ease of following the route
3.9 / 5
Route interest
4 / 5
Kriss 11
Kriss 11
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Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 27, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

A very pleasant hike alternating between forest and fields, done with one of my dogs at the end of October 2024. No particular difficulty if you are in good shape. Note that I hardly ever use the markings, only the app for the route and the IGN map. Dog owners, be careful of certain fences that are electrified without this being indicated. In particular, those surrounding fields where sheep graze.
Back at the car park near the arboretum, I added a short detour to climb the observatory tower, where the view of the surrounding area and the historical descriptions are really worth seeing.
Thanks to "l'éclaireur" marc-educ-pop for this hike.

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poissonnanard
poissonnanard

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 16, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : Yes

A lovely hike with a group of friends aged between 65 and 85. A bit challenging in places, but interesting. Remember to bring your walking sticks!

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Chevreuil53
Chevreuil53

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 18, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

Dogs permitted

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richardcarlier
richardcarlier

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jan 01, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : Yes

A lovely route steeped in history and a bit of a workout thanks to a few steep inclines (not suitable for very young children, I think). On another note, I found a shell on the path, so be careful of things like that! Do not touch it and call 17 immediately (giving them the GPS coordinates of your discovery will be a real help to the specialists).

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Marlychois
Marlychois

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 11, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

After point 7, we were unable to follow the route to the wash house. Either the description is incorrect or needs updating, or
a property is preventing access to the route. So be careful
I can also confirm that the start is difficult. We also crossed the arboretum too quickly without realising that we had missed the old destroyed Craonne (a shame).
Thanks to the person who created this route, because it's always easy to criticise.

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Romalo
Romalo

Overall rating : 3 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 07, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★☆☆☆☆ Very disappointing
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Description of the route is unreliable. You get lost right from the start.

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marc-educ-pop
marc-educ-pop

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virgule
virgule

I see that I'm not the only one offering top-of-the-range after-sales service for my hikes.

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marc-educ-pop
marc-educ-pop

OK, I'll redo the location scouting and go over the itinerary and description again!

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Valentin59000
Valentin59000

Overall rating : 3 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 06, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average

Hello, my partner and I did this route during our visit to Laon. In the end, we were rather disappointed overall.

We found the signage to be rather sparse, and the PDF file not very clear, which meant that we had quite a few doubts at certain points.
What helped us most was when I discovered and installed the Visorando app with GPS guidance on the map, which was very clear and accurate.

As for the path, there are places where there isn't even a path. You either walk in a field with wheat up to your waist, or alongside it in tall grass on uneven, sloping ground, and next to that are trees (the forest) or a ditch.
This made this stage rather unpleasant and spoiled the landscape a little, as we were eager to finish this "path".

Otherwise, there are still beautiful views and sites to see.
As for the "sites to see nearby", it's not very clear or well explained, so we didn't see any.

I would not particularly recommend this route.

Kind regards.

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patmerlier
patmerlier

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Apr 20, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A very pleasant hike, passing through historic sites, spending some time in the arboretum, enjoying pleasant little paths through fields and meadows... the only downside...The section between points 6 and 7, where we weren't sure we were on the right path (no markings, and a short stretch on the main road, which admittedly wasn't very busy...).
But overall, it was a very positive experience!
A little advice for history lovers... Don't just plan for the time it takes to do the walk, allow plenty more time to visit the nearby sites (something we didn't do and which I regret).
Many thanks for putting together your routes!

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Laloup Christian
Laloup Christian

Overall rating : 3.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 31, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average

We did the route not on Monday 31 May but on Sunday 29 July 2018
The coordinates of the car park are
49°26'44.09 N
3°47'21.81" E
My car took me directly to this car park.
Christian the dialyser

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Laloup Christian
Laloup Christian

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 30, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

The GPS coordinates for the starting point car park are incorrect. See Google Earth.
The fountain and certain parts of the route are difficult to access. The fountain is inaccessible due to reeds.

Overall, the route is worth the effort, with the arboretum at the start followed by a beautiful walk through fields and forest. Shortcut possible.

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Claude jaspart
Claude jaspart

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 20, 2017
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A lovely walk that allows you to discover the old village and the new Craonne.
There is a minor issue with the route at the end of the field (not precise enough).

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gazok54
gazok54 ★

Thank you, yannmorbreizh
Rather than following the signposts, which are neither the author's nor Visorando's responsibility, you should have used the description, which is there to compensate for the lack of signposts and take you off the beaten track.
Did you have the PDF document (description and map) with you?

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