Between Trèves and Échalas

Walk between the two villages of Bas-Pilat, crossing several streams and valleys that descend to the Gier.

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 10.91 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 4h 10 
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    Difficulty: Moderate

  • ⚐
    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 355 m
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    Descent: - 354 m

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    Highest point: 389 m
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    Lowest point: 186 m

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Description of the walk

Park in the hamlet of La Fléchette between Saint-Romain and Rive-de-Gier.

(S/E) After crossing the Gier, take the path that climbs to the left. Cross the SNCF railway line to reach Le Morel

(1) Turn right towards Trèves, passing through Crêt Morel until you reach the D 103.

(2) Turn left onto the D103, which descends to the bottom of the valley.

(3) There are two options at the sharp bend on the D103.
- Either descend into the valley to cut across the circular bend in the road.
- Or follow the description and continue along the road, crossing the bridge and continuing to the power line before another bridge.

(4) Go down under the bridge to climb up the Échalas river, mainly on the right bank via a small path in the woods (not shown on the map) for 1.5 km, crossing the stream as the path goes.

(5) Turn left onto a good path that heads north, turns right at a place called Le Gonty, and passes by the Madone Bleue.

(6) Turn left and head north to Échalas at the cemetery.

(7) Turn left onto the small road to pass in front of the cemetery.
Continue along this road, which then turns into a track, winding down towards the Gier.

(8) Turn left quickly to go back up the first path.
Then climb back up and return to the first crossroads.

(1) Turn right and descend to the hamlet where you started (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 188 m - La Fléchette. Cross the - Gier (rivière) à finaliser
  2. 1 : km 0.4 - alt. 220 m - Le Morel. Crossroads of the circular loop
  3. 2 : km 2.2 - alt. 336 m - D103
  4. 3 : km 3.07 - alt. 358 m - Hairpin bend D103
  5. 4 : km 4.28 - alt. 260 m - Bridge. Go back up the river.
  6. 5 : km 5.18 - alt. 281 m - Exit from the valley
  7. 6 : km 6.72 - alt. 389 m - The Blue Madonna
  8. 7 : km 7.82 - alt. 361 m - Cemetery
  9. 8 : km 9.75 - alt. 186 m - The Gier
  10. S/E : km 10.91 - alt. 188 m - Hamlet of La Fléchette

Notes

You can cut the circular road by descending into the valley at (3). Difficulty.

Worth a visit

Near the start, 1 km away on the D488, are the remains of the old Canal de Givors à Rive-de-Gier and its Roche Trouée (car park and numerous information panels).

Reviews and comments

3.3 / 5
Based on 14 reviews

Reliability of the description
2.9 / 5
Ease of following the route
2.9 / 5
Route interest
4.1 / 5
michel.guinand
michel.guinand

Overall rating : 3.7 / 5

Date of your route : Dec 10, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

This route is rated as moderately difficult, but it has now become difficult or even impassable in certain places after heavy flooding. In short, it's a real obstacle course.
We must wait for the rivers to be cleared before it will be enjoyable again.

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pegase595
pegase595

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jan 19, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Hello,
An interesting hike in mid-January 2024, but unfortunately impossible to complete at the Mezerin stream. There was no way to cross without taking off your shoes. We had to turn back.
So avoid this hike in winter. Wait until late spring to be able to cross the stream.
Kind regards

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manuel.fonseca
manuel.fonseca

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Mar 16, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

The hike starts in a very pleasant spot. Once you reach the Échalas plateau, the path leads to a plateau surrounded by fields. Looking into the distance, you can see St Martin-La-Plaine, St-Joseph, Tartaras, Châteauneuf "42800", etc.). Bordered by a pretty valley, you can enjoy the view! There are some beautiful panoramas of the Monts du Lyonnais.
There is a difficult section around km 4.5 when climbing up the Mézerin river, but after that, everything is fine, with wooded landscapes giving way to a few rocky outcrops. There is a very steep climb at km 5.2 when leaving the valley.
A pleasant hike, but a bit too much tarmac, which is a shame!

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pouget yves
pouget yves

No answer to your question. I don't know that area well enough.
Right now, I'm hiking with my wife in Chile, in Patagonia, which is a completely different region. The weather is nice, but very windy.

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Elizabeth
Elizabeth

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Nov 22, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

• Hike starting from Echalas on 22 November 2022. As it was a bit short, I extended it by a few kilometres by going down to Moulin Glattard, Les Jarriges, Le Burel, then back up to Trèves (passing in front of the interesting church), then following your route. A total of 14.5 km.
• However, to my great regret, I had to give up on the off-trail section from Basse Dhuire to Jannoray, which looked very charming, but I have a plaster cast on my wrist and I'm not exactly young anymore, the weather was wet, the ground a little slippery, and common sense told me not to go looking for trouble! I continued along the road for a while and at elevation 272, I found a purple trail that I followed, and it brought me back to your route.
• I have a question: in La Fléchette, there is a superb old house that looks to me like a fortified house. Surely this beautiful building isn't the "mill"? I couldn't find anything about it on the internet. Do you know anything more about it?
• Thank you for this route, which I really enjoyed in mixed weather: clear, grey, sunshine here and there, but no rain!
• NB: I only walk with the GPS track.

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pouget yves
pouget yves

The route dates back to 2015 and, as indicated in the description, included sections off the beaten track that were sometimes difficult to navigate. This situation has likely not improved since I mapped and travelled the route seven years ago. I will retrace it and make corrections when I have the opportunity. Part of it remains feasible.
Thank you for letting me know.

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Heclio
Heclio

Overall rating : 3 / 5

Date of your route : Mar 29, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★☆☆☆ Disappointing
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

The route is no longer up to date in 2022, as some paths simply do not exist (point 3, for example).
The route seems to have been mapped out randomly without taking existing paths into account. Hiking or climbing?
We tried to follow the route carefully with GPS, and it is impossible if you only want to walk: 80° slopes (and I'm not exaggerating), barbed wire to cross, private property you have to enter, etc.
My advice: use the route as a guide, but adapt it to stay on the paths without getting lost or having to climb.

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clubcarotte
clubcarotte

At the fountain after the houses, about 60 m or 100 m further on, on the right, there is a signprohibiting motorcycles. I believe that is where the path descends into the valley, which then leads to a road. Turn left and continue until you reach the next path on the left. Do not cross the stream, but stay on the left, trying to find a path using your GPS as a guide, as it is not really visible.

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clubcarotte
clubcarotte
• Edited:

I did it in several stages because it was impossible to find the way. At point 3 towards the France tunnel, you have to continue straight on until you reach a house on the right. Opposite this house, on the left, there is a park with a donkey and geese. That is where you will find the famous, barely visible path that leads up to Maison Neuve.

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grandguy42
grandguy42

Overall rating : 3.5 / 5

Date of your route : Dec 29, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : Not used / Not applicable
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

Hike after the wind at the end of December, lots of trees on the trails, quite difficult to hike on this route.
Caution!!! At point 3, there is no existing trail; you have to climb into the woods to reach the new house. As Jeanly says,
Jeanly: "I would recommend skipping point 3 and going directly from 2 to Trèves by road. The section you skip is quite close to the motorway and therefore quite noisy."
Otherwise, with a GPS, you'll be fine. Today, the paths were slippery and the fords a little difficult to cross because the rivers are high, but my wife and I managed to get across without getting our feet too wet. This is a hike I found for my club, and I think I'll take them on these paths (skipping point 3) because the 3 Combes is nice. I live in the Gier Valley and found paths on this hike that I had never taken before, so I'll be back...

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clubcarotte
clubcarotte

I admit that the application had a glitch, so we will do this hike again in drier weather, because we loved the place. Best regards.

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bibi
bibi ★

So it wasn't the hike that was disappointing, it was the app that crashed? Do you remember doing anything in particular that might have caused this crash?
Sorry for this mishap.

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clubcarotte
clubcarotte

Overall rating : 2.3 / 5

Date of your route : Feb 14, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★☆☆☆☆ Very disappointing
Ease of following the route : ★☆☆☆☆ Very disappointing
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

We got off to a good start, but when we reached the France tunnel, there was no trace of the route. We had to climb the hill above the tunnel to get back on track, so we arrived at Maison Neuve Impect, and that's where the Visorando website let us down. We continued with the paper route, which wasn't great, so we weren't happy at all.

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hiker38
hiker38

Overall rating : 3.3 / 5

Date of your route : Apr 16, 2017
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

A beautiful route with three well-hidden valleys to discover.
However, don't rely too much on the description or GPS track as there are some errors (has the route changed since this guide was published?).
Adventure is adventure...
So many flowers and birdsong!

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bibi
bibi ★
• Edited:

Thank you for this additional information. We will wait for the author's opinion before adding this information to the description.

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