Lakes and glacial cirques around Kastelberg

The gentle, rounded shapes of the Vosges mountains sometimes conceal the harsh and authentic remains of the Ice Age: rocky chaos, turbulent streams, scree, lakes and cliffs.
This hike follows paths that are sometimes difficult but well secured, and the wild beauty of the glacial cirques around Kastelberg is well worth the effort. However, it should be avoided in winter. Good footwear is essential.

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 10.88 km
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    Average duration: 4h 55 
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    Difficulty: Difficult

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 627 m
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    Descent: - 631 m

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    Highest point: 1,170 m
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    Lowest point: 789 m

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Description of the walk

(S/E) From the Kastelberwasen car park, near the farmhouse inn, join theGR®531path (Blue Rectangle) below. It descends through meadows towards Kerbholz. After entering the forest, the descent becomes steeper and leads to a stone chalet. The path continues to the left, but it is worth stopping for a panoramic view from the stubble field (beautiful view of the Spitzkoepfe ridge).

(1) Take theGR®531again to walk through the wooded cirque of Ammelthal towards Lake Schiessrothried. A few rocky passages, streams and several scree slopes require caution and attention. After 40 minutes, you will reach a pass at the first Spitzkoepfe. Leave the path that climbs towards the ridge on your left and continue to the right to reach the viewpoint. It offers a remarkable view of the Wormsa valley and the small Fischboedle lake below.

(2) Take theGR®531again for a winding descent. Leave the Blue Triangle trail on your left and continue to the right towards the lake dam. You are now in the heart of the magnificent Wormspel cirque dominated by the Hohneck.

(3) Just before the dam, on the right, theGR®5(Red Rectangle) runs alongside a stream (the Wormsa) towards Lake Fischboedle. After an 800m steep descent, you will reach the picturesque little lake at the foot of an impressive scree slope. Enjoy a little rest and the shelter, which is very popular in summer, then take the footbridge over the dam and turn left onto the Croix Bleue trail. After a few metres through the rocks, it joins a wide carriage road.

(4) On the left, theGR®5leads to the beautiful Wormsa valley (see round trip variant), take the marked Croix Bleue path on the right.

(5) After 100 metres, climb up to the right for a "difficult" variant of the Croix Bleue trail (not very difficult in fact). Enjoy a beautiful climb through the forest among the mossy rocks.

(6) When you reach a crossroads, leave the trail, ignore the trail on the right that leads to Kerbholz and take the trail on the left (sometimes very grassy) marked with a blue cross and marked "Fischboedle pour votre sécurité" (for your safety) towards a forest road. You will reach it 100 metres further on in a bend. This is the Kastelberg road used by mountain bikes.

(7) Leave the path on the left that descends towards Fischboedle and Mittlach and head towards the steeply ascending path marked with a blue triangle, which goes around Kerbholtz to the south. After 800 metres and a few cattle grids in season, you will come to the intersection with a path marked with a blue cross.

(8) On your left, the Blue Cross trail leads to Lake Altenweiher. It descends gently into the forest. Leave the paths on your right. A few hairpin bends and some imposing rocks herald a steeper descent. The bucolic atmosphere should not prevent you from exercising caution. After several scree slopes, streams and rocky areas, as you approach the lake, leave the Yellow Cross marked return trail on your right. Continue to the lake.
From the dam, you can admire the Rainkopf and the wooded cirques of Pferrey and Altenweiher.

(9) Retrace your steps to find the wide yellow cross trail towards Tagweidle for a final climb up the switchbacks to Kastelberg. A beautiful scree slope and a few viewpoints allow you to admire the lake and the peaks of Rainkopf and Rothenbachkopf.
The slope levels out. You reach a crossroads. A sign invites you to turn right towards the Kastelberg farm.

(10) This is a beautiful path through a lovely beech forest, relaxing and flat, but often muddy in places. It quickly leads to the Kastelberg farm via the farm buildings and then the terrace.
If the weather is, or has been, very wet, take the dry alternative route (Practical information) (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 1,164 m - Kastelbergwasen car park
  2. 1 : km 0.73 - alt. 1,070 m - GR531 - Kerbholz
  3. 2 : km 2.37 - alt. 1,021 m - 1st Spitzkoepfe GR531 - Spitzkoepfe
  4. 3 : km 3.42 - alt. 931 m - Dam - GR5 - lac de schiessrothried
  5. 4 : km 4.37 - alt. 789 m - Right at Croix Bleue - Lac de Fischboedle
  6. 5 : km 4.46 - alt. 792 m - On the right, Blue Cross variant
  7. 6 : km 5.06 - alt. 946 m - Left towards forest road
  8. 7 : km 5.16 - alt. 938 m - Climb via Blue Triangle
  9. 8 : km 6.03 - alt. 1,067 m - To the left via Croix Bleue
  10. 9 : km 7.82 - alt. 925 m - Altenweiher
  11. 10 : km 9.74 - alt. 1,170 m - Crossroads - Right (dry weather)
  12. S/E : km 10.88 - alt. 1,164 m - Kastelbergwasen car park

Notes

Please note:
TheGR®531path between Kerbholz and the first Spitzkoepfe is not recommended in winter. It is sometimes closed. The farmhouse inn is closed in winter and the access road to the car park is not cleared of snow.
This same path has dangerous sections in wet weather (slippery rocks).

Alternatives:

At (6), if the path on the left is too grassy, take the path opposite on the right towards "Kerbholtz" and stay on the Croix Bleue path. You will rejoin the route at (8).

Long alternative route 13.4 km, 760 m elevation gain. At (9), continue along the Chevalet Jaune path after the dam towards Pferrey and Ferschmuss (or Firstmiss), from where theGR®531will take you back to the car park. Pass through the Ferschmuss stubble field and then a beautiful high-altitude beech forest.

Return trip option. From (4), take a return trip by turning left onto theGR®5for 700 metres: waterfalls and wooden bridges over the Wormsa, picnic areas available.

Dry variant. At (10), turn left towards Hohneck and Tagweidle. Climb up to the junction with theGR®531Rectangle Bleu. Leave the Croix Jaune trail and take theGR®531on the right for a leisurely return to the farm car park.

Shelters and refuges:
Schiessrothried refuge.
Fichboedle shelter.
Kastelberg farmhouse inn.

IBP difficulty rating: Comparative scale of IBP values.
IBP = 77: moderate to difficult route for someone of average physical fitness, but very difficult for an untrained hiker.

Club Vosgien markings: This route follows paths marked by the CV in Munster.
CV signs.

IGN map legend: IGN signs

Always be cautious and plan ahead when you're outdoors. Visorando and the author of this route cannot be held responsible for any accidents occurring on this route.

The GR® and PR® markings are the intellectual property of the Fédération Française de Randonnée Pédestre.

Reviews and comments

4.4 / 5
Based on 7 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.3 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.1 / 5
Route interest
4.7 / 5
RafRuns
RafRuns

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 15, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A big thank you to the creator of this hike, which is, as indicated... "technical"!
In mid-October, the first part was difficult for me because it was slippery, lots of leaves were covering the rocks, the metal aids at tricky sections were almost unusable, and I had to use my hands a lot. So I decided to stop at point 8 and catch up with point 1(I still wanted to eat a blueberry tart at Kastelberg, which closes at 4 p.m. ).
The strength of this route is the multitude of alternative options depending on the terrain, your mood, and how tired you are.
The route is magnificent, surrounded by nature, with few people on the paths, but quite a few around the lakes. I would do it again in its entirety in the summer.
Thank you!

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

Hello and thank you for your feedback.
Could you please provide some additional information regarding the lack of precision in order to improve the description?

Kind regards

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Jonathan67
Jonathan67

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 07, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Very beautiful route. The description sometimes lacks precision.

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

Thank you, SIMON FREDI, for your comment and testimonial.

Best regards

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SIMON FREDI
SIMON FREDI

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 13, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A very beautiful hike. Recommended for anyone who thinks the Vosges are just a bunch of cow hills. The trail between Kerbholtz and Schisrothried deserves special attention. We met people with a dog weighing over 50 kg who were walking in the opposite direction and who, firstly, got in the way of hikers walking in the logical direction of the trail and, secondly, had to take risks to lift the dog over every dangerous section. Not for the faint-hearted.

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

Thank you for your comment.
Could you be more specific about how we could improve the track?
Kind regards

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Crapahut25
Crapahut25

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : May 13, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A very beautiful route that deserves its classification as "difficult", particularly in the first section up to Lake Schiessrothried. A very lively hike alongside lakes, streams and waterfalls.
A few improvements to the route marking in the first part would make it easier to find your way.
Recommended in hot weather, as it is mostly shaded.

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

Good evening, Yuka

I was hesitant to classify this route as "difficult", but your feedback has convinced me to do so. The path between Kerbholz and thefirst Spitzkoepfe can be daunting in places.
At point (7), the blue triangle marker on a tree may be hidden by vegetation, but I point out in the description that the path climbs steeply while the other descends, so in principle you shouldn't go wrong.
Thank you for sharing your experience with us. It is always very useful for improving the routes.

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yuka
yuka

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 13, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

Hello
I advise you to be very careful. I have already done several hikes in this area, and I think that the difficulty level of this route should be corrected. It should not be classified as moderate, but difficult for the first part, and then it is true that it can be considered moderate.
You should also be very careful between points 6 and 7. I took variant 5, and at point 6, you turn left, then at junction 7, you turn right and look for the famous blue triangle on the right. You can't see it, so I went down a little further to the new junction. Mitlach on the right, I went back up to 7 and that's where you can see it
behind the tree, but on the wrong side when you take variant 5.

Best regards

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

You are right, paths with rocky or root-covered sections, which are numerous in the Vosges, are slippery and therefore dangerous in wet weather.
I have just highlighted this in the description.

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JMBPFAFF
JMBPFAFF

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 22, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

It might be useful to emphasise the "more challenging" aspect of the descent mentioned in point 1. The rocky sections are slippery, especially in wet weather.

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

I have just slightly modified the text and indicated in "practical information" that people who, after the "difficult path", encounter a path that is too grassy on the left between (6) and (7) can choose to go straight ahead towards Kerbholtz and continue on the Croix Bleue path to find the point (8).

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FJ6888
FJ6888 ★

Hello

At the point (6), after climbing the "difficult path", you will arrive at a crossroads. Turn left (see description).
This path is marked with a blue cross (on the tree on the left) with the indication: "Difficult path, for your safety...". At this point, slightly to the right, you will head towards Kherbholtz (which you have already done), and completely to the left, after 100 metres (follow the signs for Lake Fiscboedelé to avoid the difficult path), you will arrive at the crossroads with the Blue Triangle path.
All of this is in the description.

Perhaps this 100-metre section between the "difficult path" and the Blue Triangle is currently overgrown with vegetation after the early spring rains and because it is rarely used.

You have taken the Kerbholtz direction, staying on the Croix Bleue path, which will take you to Lake Altenweiher without any problems. You have just extended the route by about 400 metres. This is not a bad thing, as it avoids walking on the grassy path while waiting for the Munster CV trail markers to make it more accessible.
You can check all this on the most up-to-date IGN map on the infogeo68 website: https://infogeo68.fr/Infogeo68/site/arxM...!tourisme_culture&theme=!tourisme_randonnee&baseMap=fond_plan4 and also check that all these details are included in the description.

If you have any suggestions for improving the description, I would be grateful to hear them.

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lephiloudu67
lephiloudu67

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 21, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

Hello.
Once again, we feel reassured with an IGN map when we're not sure which direction to take!
At point 5, the trail is difficult, with a steep climb and lots of rocks, but very pretty! At point 6, there's a problem: this trail crosses a forest path covered in grass, with no signs, so we decide to continue straight ahead on the small path, hoping to find a "crossroads" later on, but we end up back at the Kerbholz stone chalet.
No big deal, just turn left in front of the chalet towards Lake Altenweiher, a small blue cross trail that goes downhill and is superb! Apart from this slight detour, this hike is excellent!

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