Grands Lacs via the Terre Rouge refuge

This hike consists of two loops that meet at the Terre Rouge refuge.
The lower loop allows you to admire the Neuvache valley from a balcony trail as you climb. On the descent, the route often runs alongside the torrent itself.
The upper loop takes place in a more mineral environment at the base of the western slope of Mont Thabor.
The markings for these loops are varied.

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
  • ↔
    Distance: 13.94 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 6h 15 
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    Difficulty: Moderate

  • ⚐
    Back to start: Yes
  • ↗
    Ascent: + 780 m
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    Descent: - 780 m

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    Highest point: 2,509 m
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    Lowest point: 1,749 m

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Description of the walk

To get to the starting point, see § Practical information.

(S/E) Climb up the stony path that extends from the car park and after 300 m, you will reach a junction.

(1) Continue climbing along the path that branches off to the left. The directional signs indicate the Terre Rouge refuge in both directions.

(2) At a place called La Losa, leave the path to the left towards the Refuge des Marches and continue straight ahead towards the Notre-Dame des Neiges chapel. Leave the main path near the chapel to admire it.

(3) From the chapel, return to the main trail and follow it to the clearly visible Terre Rouge refuge. Near the refuge, cross the stream on a footbridge.

(4) Continue climbing to the left along the well-marked path parallel to the stream, following the signs for Mont Thabor - Grands Lacs. You will reach a junction (signpost).

(5) Leave the path towards Mont Thabor and take a small, less well-marked path that climbs to the left (red markings on the rocks). As you climb, pass the small Lac Caspi and continue to the Grands Lacs (sign).

(6) Walk along the right side of the lake and descend into the Grandes Culées stream valley, following the red markings on the rocks, then cross the stream.

(7) Cross the stream on the footbridge and continue downhill to the Terre Rouge refuge.

(4) Go around the refuge, cross the torrent on a footbridge and continue downhill into the Torrent de la Neuvache valley. Pass La Sausse and reach a footbridge.

(8) Cross the stream and ignore the path that climbs up opposite the Notre-Dame des Neiges chapel. Descend to the left along the path that runs alongside the stream, crossing it again on a footbridge. You will reach Mathoset.

(9) Take the footbridge, ignoring the paths on the left, and continue along the stream. You will reach a junction near another footbridge.

(10) Do not take this footbridge, but instead head left towards Valmeinier 1500. The descent continues on the right bank of the Torrent la Neuvache.

(1) Continue straight ahead to reach the car park (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 1,749 m - Chenalette car park
  2. 1 : km 0.28 - alt. 1,789 m - Intersection of L'Ordière
  3. 2 : km 2.03 - alt. 2,100 m - La Losa
  4. 3 : km 3.7 - alt. 2,187 m - Notre-Dame des Neiges
  5. 4 : km 4.36 - alt. 2,169 m - Junction of the loops. - Refuge de Terre Rouge
  6. 5 : km 6.34 - alt. 2,390 m - Intersection.
  7. 6 : km 6.98 - alt. 2,509 m - Grands Lacs
  8. 7 : km 8.28 - alt. 2,321 m - Footbridge over the Grandes Culées stream.
  9. 8 : km 9.85 - alt. 2,103 m - Footbridge over the torrent of the - Neuvache (cours d'eau)
  10. 9 : km 12.75 - alt. 1,826 m - Mathoset - Footbridge
  11. 10 : km 13.01 - alt. 1,818 m - Intersection - Footbridge
  12. S/E : km 13.94 - alt. 1,749 m - Chenalette car park

Notes

The Chenalette car park is clearly signposted from the road leading to Valmeinier 1800.

At the car park, there is drinking water and dry toilets at the start of the climb.

Hiking equipment, water.

Worth a visit

The Refuge de Terre Rouge was inaugurated in spring 2017. It is built on the site of an alpine chalet.

The Notre-Dame des Neiges Chapel is closed, but the exterior has been carefully renovated.

The trail between (2) and (4) is dotted with ruined chalets. However, some have been tastefully renovated.

Reviews and comments

5 / 5
Based on 16 reviews

Reliability of the description
5 / 5
Ease of following the route
5 / 5
Route interest
4.9 / 5
les 2 chams
les 2 chams

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Nov 12, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

interesting landscapes and chalets encountered
magnificent refuge... closed today but possibility of winter refuge

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Didou69
Didou69

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 20, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Simply magnificent!
But a bit sporty.

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Paul GARILLON
Paul GARILLON

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 03, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Hello,
The route is now signposted from the directional sign located before the Terre Rouge refuge "Les Grands Lacs - 1h10 - 2.2km" in a clockwise direction (opposite to the Visorando route). It is therefore unnecessary to cross the stream as indicated in § (3) for those who want to follow the signs. A few yellow markings indicate the path, which is not always very well marked.
Walk along the left side of the lake to descend towards Lake Caspi. A detour off the trail to the highest of the two hills to the right of the lake (west) offers a beautiful view.
At the refuge, the signpost indicates "La Chenalette" in both directions. Follow "Pré Sapey" and "La Chenalette - 1h35 -4.6km".
Numerous signposts in very good condition mark the route at almost every junction.

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zaragori
zaragori

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 02, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike, very few people from the refuge apart from a flock of sheep!
The lakes aren't the most beautiful, but the hike is very beautiful!

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RomaneA
RomaneA

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 28, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike, we enjoyed the scenery throughout. We only encountered one person (between stages 1 and 2) and then we were alone.
We heard marmots during our walk.
Be aware, however, that we are two adults and I would not recommend this hike with young children as there are some uneven slopes.
We recommend this route!

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bab
bab

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 31, 2023
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A very beautiful hike towards the mountain lakes. The return trip through the Nevache Valley is simply superb. The natural environment is unspoilt. Everything I love. A must-do

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Guillaume PA
Guillaume PA
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 17, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

We left at 7am from the Chenalette car park in glorious weather

The advantage of leaving early was that we were in the shade for quite a while
The little windbreaker was appreciated
We passed a few people, but mostly on the way down
And if it's hot, you can cool off
With water regularly crossing the trail

The landscape is magnificent
We heard a few marmots.

A great time for us!

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gigine57
gigine57

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 11, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike to the great lakes (a bit busy up to the Terre Rouge refuge)
It's also nice to find the refuge open for cold drinks and snacks
It's July, and there are flowers of every colour. The landscape is magnificent

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PatCarnot
PatCarnot

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 20, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Well done on this description. We did the hike in the opposite direction to follow the trail, and it was perfect!
It was magnificent

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annasteeljo
annasteeljo

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 28, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Magnificent scenery. The signposting is perfect. At this time of year, there are very few visitors.

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champet67
champet67

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 07, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A fairly long but magnificent hike to the lakes!

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laurent perinel
laurent perinel

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 12, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : Yes

Second half of July 2020, crowds on this route which also leads to Thabor. Apart from the lakes, the rest of the hike is average, except... at the right time of year when martagon lilies are in abundance on the descent, so...

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opale
opale

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 05, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A magnificent hike in a wild and uncrowded area in the second half: we only saw one other person at the lakes
only saw one other person at the lakes.
There were a few more people on the climb up to the refuge, but it was by no means crowded!
The slope is steady and not too steep, interspersed with small flat sections, so nothing difficult.
A beautiful viewpoint at the summit with Rocher Château and the Aiguilles d'Arves:
You do have to climb the small hill above the lakes to get the full view.
There are beautiful chalets all along the route, and at the beginning of summer, there are flowers everywhere
it's enchanting.
The descent along the various streams is very pleasant.

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migar
migar

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 29, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A very beautiful hike. On the advice of other experienced hikers, we did it in the opposite direction to enjoy the sunshine. At the refuge and on the descent, there were quite a few people, horses and mules loaded with equipment. A film was being shot about the Franco-Italian war of 1945.
The blueberry bushes were all red, which gave the mountain an unusual appearance.
A hike to be recommended

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mfcahlego
mfcahlego

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 11, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

a very beautiful and easily accessible hike
The refuge allowed the little walkers to rest and wait for the "big" walkers who went all the way to the lakes

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