Around the Charbon mountain

This circular route includes an overnight stay at the Combe refuge, where children will enjoy the end of the day at the farm-refuge (herding the flock with dogs, milking, etc.) and parents will enjoy tartiflette made with sheep's cheese. The next day's stage, which is longer than the previous day's, can only be completed with children who are not only motivated but who have already hiked in the mountains (I have personally hiked with children aged 7, 9 and 11).

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 16.07 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 2 days 
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    Difficulty: Moderate

  • ⚐
    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 1,140 m
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    Descent: - 1,141 m

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    Highest point: 1,879 m
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    Lowest point: 1,170 m

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Stages of the route

This route needs several days, find the details below:

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Reviews and comments

4.5 / 5
Based on 6 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.6 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.2 / 5
Route interest
4.8 / 5
LauMan
LauMan
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Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 29, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike with bivouacking over 2.5 days (2 nights), but one night is easily feasible.
There are numerous water sources and the landscapes are magnificent and varied.
You can see the Mont Blanc massif for much of the hike, passing through woods, with views of Lake Annecy...
The boardwalk from the mountain pasture to the Combe refuge is enormous
Didn't have the energy to do Mont Trélod, another time!
I highly recommend it.

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gilles.guilhin
gilles.guilhin

Hello,
I'm not sure you can book, as I believe it's an unstaffed lodge. In that case, you'll need to arrive early to be sure of getting a place. Otherwise, you can camp in a tent around the refuge.
Best regards

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Choups
Choups
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 28, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Thank you very much for this great hike, which I highly recommend: both challenging but entirely doable, without the need for expert hiking training, this hike offers very varied landscapes, with lots of herds of animals grazing peacefully in the wild, forest trails, ridge paths, meadows and stony paths. We set off at around 12:30 pm on the first day and stopped at the Combe mountain hut for a drink at around 4:30 pm before spending the night at the Charbon mountain hut, which is extremely well maintained by the Tous au Charbon association and is a little haven of happiness hidden in the hollow of the mountain!
The second day is more physically demanding than the first in terms of elevation and length of the hike, and the descent is very steep, but it's easily doable if you take the time to take regular breaks. We left around 11 a.m. and finished the hike around 5 p.m.!
We were also very lucky with the weather, with bright sunshine without it being too hot – perfect weather. Perhaps if there had been a storm, the climb would have been more difficult!
This hike was a wonderful surprise!

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gilles.guilhin
gilles.guilhin
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Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 10, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

We had a wonderful two-day hike (with bivouac). Contrary to the opinion of a hiker in 2019, the trail markings have probably been redone. And shortly after point 10 (before the big climb into the forest), the start of the trail has been cleared so you can't miss it!
The only downside was the weather: we had a (forecast) storm during the night, and the water turned the uphill trail in the forest into a huge muddy mess! Despite our walking sticks, the climb was difficult.
No problems with navigation either, thanks to the Visorando app and, above all, to the GPX track loaded onto my phone and GPS watch.
I should point out that having the IGN map on the phone, the route (GPX) in red, and the exact position in blue makes navigation (too) easy! But that doesn't mean you don't need a map and compass.
We were surprised that none of the hikers who were at the refuge on Saturday evening had planned this route!
One small drawback: at the end of the route (descent on the west side of Charbon), we encountered many people coming up in the opposite direction, heading towards Trélod in the morning.
In short, a hike that I recommend. Perhaps avoid with young children.

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Marylinewel
Marylinewel

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 15, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike, done with my 12-year-old daughter. We camped at the unmanned Charbon refuge. We had a visit from a family of wild boars during the night: quite impressive, but they eventually left without damaging our tent.
The route was easy to follow thanks to the app and its GPS.
The road to the starting point car park is closed, so you have to walk there in 15-20 minutes and leave your car in another car park a little further down. Following the GPS track on the app, it's quite simple and straightforward.
I recommend it.
Thank you, Viso Rando!

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crazypixel
crazypixel

Overall rating : 3.3 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 27, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★☆☆☆ Disappointing
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

/!\ Important information
This hike was recorded in 2016, since then the trail has deteriorated significantly in the direction of Reposoir/Refuge de la Combe/La Dente des Portes/Le Reposoir.

I have been hiking for many years, equipped with IGN maps, and several groups of locals have also taken the wrong path. Let's not be afraid to say it, these successive failures have put us all in danger!

First of all, the Reposoir car park: the road is now closed, and the car park is 15-20 minutes further down the road, at a place called "Sanguinaire", with no signs. Worse still, the car park is also called Reposoir, which is confusing, so you will be tempted to take the first hiking trail on your left... This is a serious mistake, as it leads nowhere and is very steep. Some locals also got caught out on the same day as us.

Once you reach the real trail, the passage to the Combe refuge is unremarkable.

However, the second stage, from point number 8:

- You will arrive at PLANAY, where a recent 4x4 track indicates the Refuge de la Combe/Le Rosay in one direction and the Fontaine du Fayard in the other, BUT THERE IS NO indication of the pass leading to the Dent des Portes!
You will need to find the trail by following the mountain as far away from the 4x4 track as possible, it goes into the woods.

Once you have avoided this first mistake, you will need to find a fork in the path that leads downhill rather than continuing uphill, a mistake that two other groups made on the same day as us. We found ourselves in the bed of a small dry stream, where a cairn clearly showed that we were not the first to take this wrong path and indicated that we should continue. and then, to our astonishment, the slope became steep at more than 50° and the configuration of the stream prevented us from turning back. We were lying down, clinging to the vegetation to move forward, and 40 metres further on we discovered the real path, located 80 metres downstream from our position!

When I tell you that other groups were caught out, there were experienced locals, two elderly people, all of whom had to cross this passage at the risk of their lives due to the lack of markings and unclear directions!

It was only by forming a larger group to look for a way down that we finally decided to descend into the bed of a stream (on the IGN map, the first stream, marked with a cairn, is the one that passes between the letters "M" and "O" of Montagne du Charbon, and the stream that allows you to descend is the one marked with a dot at an altitude of 1666).

Similarly, at the top of the pass, the numerous traces of grazing animals and the lack of signposts are once again misleading, especially if you pass by the Chardonnay chalet and not the summit of the Dent de la Porte.

I can only advise you to do the route in the opposite direction. The lack of markings should not pose any particular problem, as the park has been alerted to the numerous errors and confusion. It remains to be seen how long it will take to remedy this...

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01rando
01rando

Hello,

I'm glad you enjoyed the hike despite the mediocre weather and the fact that there was still a lot of snow for June. Now all that's left to do is try again when the weather is nice.
Best regards

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memere60
memere60

Hello,

A quick review of this hike. Excellent description, excellent scenery, sunshine on Saturday and rain on Sunday.
Otherwise, a very beautiful hike with everything I love: good climbs, small trails and, surprisingly, lots of snow covering part of the route on the Dent des Portes section. I managed to find my way using old footprints.

However, this is a hike that can be done in a day, and it's not easy to find a place to sleep in a tent!

I recommend it in any case.

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01rando
01rando

Hello,

Following your request, I can confirm that you need to book accommodation at the Combe refuge.
Thank you for your interest in this hike. I hope you enjoy it as much as I did. I wish you a pleasant Whitsun weekend. I look forward to reading your comments when you return.
Kind regards

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memere60
memere60

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 04, 2019
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : Not used / Not applicable
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

Hello,

I am planning to do this hike during the Whitsun weekend.
However, I have a question about accommodation. Could you tell me if I need to book a place to stay at the Combe refuge or if it would be better to take a tent?

Thank you in advance.

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