Roche Parnal and Montagne Sous-Dîne crossing

Roche Parnal and Montagne de Sous-Dîne are advanced viewpoints of the Bornes massif, ahead of Glières, and dominate the La Roche-sur-Foron area. The circular route offers a varied and interesting but demanding itinerary: some sections are exposed and several cable passages require caution, particularly the Col du Câble, which justifies the rating given.

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    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 14.57 km
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    Duration according to the author: 8 hrs 
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    Difficulty: Very difficult

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 1,100 m
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    Descent: - 1,103 m

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    Highest point: 1,997 m
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    Lowest point: 1,140 m

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Description of the walk

Departure from the Chesnet car park, reached from La Roche-sur-Foron by climbing up to the Orange station and continuing to the end of the road.
Please note: parking spaces fill up quickly during the season.

(S/E) Continue south along the path through the forest. It begins to climb slowly. At the first crossroads, turn left and the slope becomes steeper before reaching a first flat area and a three-way junction.

(1) Turn left again towards the Chalet de la Balme: the path on the right also leads there, but via a detour used by 4x4 vehicles. The slope becomes steeper in the forest, despite a few flat sections, and the path eventually emerges in the Balme mountain pastures, from where you can reach the ridge.

(2) You are now above the Chalet de la Balme. Climb up opposite, either towards the visible chalet to pass at its foot, or (GPS track) across towards the stream, which you cross at a drinking trough, to climb up the paths on the left bank of the grassy slopes.

The paths merge into a regular trail that heads right towards the clearly visible Col du Câble. The slope becomes steeper and the path more rugged until it reaches the cliff, which can be crossed via a particularly exposed passage: it is equipped with a handrail and steps fixed to the rock for your feet. Above this passage, the path winds its way to Col du Câble.

(3) Climb up a fairly steep path on the left, which rises up the back of the cliff to the summit of Roche Parnal.

(4) Descend to the right along the path, first on a ridge and then into a small valley that leads to Col du Freu.

(5) Do not descend any further, but take a level path on the right that heads south-west, goes around Roche Parnal at the bottom and leads back to Col du Câble.

(6) There is no need to climb back up to the pass. Continue along the level path to the south-west through grassy terrain. It crosses below the Col de l'Ébat and joins the pastoral road coming from the east. Follow it to the right to the Crêt de l'Ébat.

(7) Leave the road and take the path heading north on the Crêt de l'Ébat ridge, crossing the pass and climbing diagonally to the left towards the cliffs. The path is sometimes poorly marked, but the direction is clearly visible: a weak point in the rocky outcrops.

(8) These bars are crossed via a first cable passage, followed by an ascending ledge between the limestone slabs, then an easier series of ledges and chimneys leading to the ridge of Montagne de Sous-Dîne. This is the Pas du Berger.

(9) Take the path on the left that follows the ridge westwards, sometimes wide, sometimes more exposed, with sinkholes and chasms, with ascents and descents to pass through gaps, one of which is equipped with a ladder followed by a cable. This leads to the summit of Sous-Dîne, a grassy plateau.

(10) Continue a little further west and leave the main path that branches off to the left, keeping to the path on the right that follows the ridge as closely as possible and descends along it to a corridor on the left that allows you to cross the rocky outcrops: the Passage du Monthieu.

(11) This corridor of tight downhill bends has a narrower, rockier section in the middle, equipped with a cable to help you climb down easily. At the foot of the passage, the path branches off to the right, then descends to the left, returns to the right and becomes a forest track. At an altitude of 1542 metres, turn left to descend to the Combe Arembeau crossroads.

(12) Take the flat forest road on the right, which climbs slightly before continuing its descent. 150 m after its left-hand bend, a path branches off to the right into the forest (small cairn).

(13) Take this red-marked path, which descends into the forest and joins logging tracks that turn left, then right until they reach the Ruisseau des Charbonnières stream, along which it descends to a crossroads.

(14) The track on the right crosses the stream and climbs back up towards the Chalet de la Balme (return possible). Instead, take the track on the left, which descends into the forest to a wider track that starts more or less level on the right: it is possible to cut through the woods in this area.

Follow this track, known as Route de Montpiton (rutty in case of forestry work), which crosses the Ruisseau des Charbonnières and further on climbs slightly to reach a footbridge over the Ruisseau du Pouarche.

(15) Go up to the left, join a new forest track that descends slightly parallel to the stream below and, after a crossroads, climbs back up to join the path taken at the start. Continue straight ahead to reach the car park, which is just 200 m away (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 1,169 m - Chesnet car park
  2. 1 : km 1.14 - alt. 1,302 m - Crossroads of two paths to La Balme
  3. 2 : km 2.31 - alt. 1,495 m - Alpage de la Balme
  4. 3 : km 3.06 - alt. 1,705 m - Col du Câble (1693m)
  5. 4 : km 3.49 - alt. 1,902 m - Roche Parnal (1896m)
  6. 5 : km 4.12 - alt. 1,695 m - Col du Frau - Col du Freu (1694m)
  7. 6 : km 4.89 - alt. 1,687 m - Below the Col du Câble
  8. 7 : km 5.54 - alt. 1,703 m - Crêt de l'Ebat
  9. 8 : km 6.32 - alt. 1,880 m - Pas du Berger
  10. 9 : km 6.44 - alt. 1,910 m - Arrival on the ridge
  11. 10 : km 7.43 - alt. 1,976 m - Summit of - Sous Dîne
  12. 11 : km 8.56 - alt. 1,751 m - Passage de Monthieu
  13. 12 : km 9.95 - alt. 1,458 m - Combe Arembeau
  14. 13 : km 11.39 - alt. 1,390 m - Bois de Sales - trail on the right
  15. 14 : km 12.36 - alt. 1,210 m - Les Bouverets - uphill junction
  16. 15 : km 13.79 - alt. 1,153 m - Montpiton road. Footbridge over the - Flan (cours d'eau) - Affluent de la Fillière
  17. S/E : km 14.57 - alt. 1,169 m - Chesnet car park

Notes

There is little water in this karstic landscape: at the foot of the slopes, the Chalet de la Balme is a good place to refill your water bottles.

No equipment is necessary, but walking poles are useful for steep descents.
Do not hesitate to hold on to the cables when necessary.

The return journey from the Passage de Monthieu uses various tracks and forest roads: several combinations are possible, depending on forestry work that may disrupt the route. Be careful not to be led astray by the signposts towards Les Cheneviers or Montpiton and veer to the right whenever possible to return to Le Chesnet. A few short climbs are unavoidable.

This route passes through a protected area, which may be subject to special regulations:

Worth a visit

Extensive views of the peaks and ridges: Mont Blanc Massif, Chablais and Aravis, Lake Geneva and Jura, etc.

Interesting and varied flora in spring.

Reviews and comments

4.7 / 5
Based on 8 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.7 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.6 / 5
Route interest
4.9 / 5
sanbe03
sanbe03

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 12, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Very nice route, very enjoyable...
However, the route is marked as very difficult, but that's okay...
Be careful on the way back, as part of the path is through a forest clearing. We were able to get through at the weekend, but during the week it must be a bit more difficult (there's a sign warning of danger of death and the path is blocked by barrier tape...).

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karkad
karkad

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 11, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A lovely hike that I already did last summer.
The cables on the cable car are brand new!
At Roche Parnal, we were joined by a group of soldiers, but after that it was quiet!
The Canadian smoke haze prevented us from fully enjoying the views, but it was still beautiful!
My husband got a little stressed on the rocky section at Dîne (rusty cable and not many footholds), but he doesn't like rocks! Another hiker joined us in the same state, but everything went well and we enjoyed this beautiful day.
Descent through dry forest despite the tall grass.
A very beautiful circular, thank you!!!

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kaolak1
kaolak1

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 08, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

There were lots of people up to the Chalet de Balme, but after that it was much more pleasant.

I loved this route, which introduced me to Roche Parnal and a different side of Sous-Dîne. The suggested loop was really great!

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Moussia18
Moussia18

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 15, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike with varied terrain.
The view is magnificent.
The return trip after passing through Monthieu is a bit long and less interesting.
We did this hike on Thursday 15 August in 6 hours and met very few people (less than 20).

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notha747474
notha747474

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 01, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

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GAVAND
GAVAND

Overall rating : 4.5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 28, 2023
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

Varied route. Magnificent panoramic views of the Alps from Roche Parnal and Sous Dine.

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Randobriot
Randobriot
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 27, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Route completed on 27 September 2023. I was going to post a similar report without knowing about this one, which is very comprehensive.
From the Col du Câble, I recommend going directly up to the top of the Pas de la Truie in the forest rather than going around via the Col de l'Ébat. The trail is very well marked with a few red markings.
The return trip after the Pas de Monthieu pass offers many possibilities, but it is difficult to get off the muddy paths that have been rutted by forestry machinery. A GPS is very useful, if not essential.
Randobriot.

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zbh0170
zbh0170
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 08, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Hello,

The hike took place today in favourable weather conditions. The ground was still quite wet in some areas following recent rainfall (which is a good thing in a way, but the ground was a bit slippery underfoot and muddy on the forest paths).

Overall, I really enjoyed this hike, especially the beautiful views of the Aravis and Bargy mountain ranges (only Mont Blanc was hidden from view). During the hike, I came across a few ibex on the descent from Roche Parnal.
Only the section after the point (12) (Combe Arembeau) was less pleasant (walking on forest paths and relatively difficult navigation (given the lack of markings)), but I am well aware that I had to come back somewhere. Following the route on GPS and the map helped a lot.

The Passage du Câble leading to the pass of the same name is the main difficulty (the other two at Pas du Berger and Passage de Monthieu are much less complicated): it is a very short via ferrata (a good ten metres) running sideways on a slight incline: it is quite exposed to the void and it is imperative to avoid any missteps that could be fatal. I recommend using a harness and a lanyard to ensure your safety. NB: on the last 2 metres, at one point you need to put your foot on the rock to move forward, and I wonder if there isn't a peg missing.
To avoid this difficulty, there are two other options: access via the Col de Freu or the Pas de la Truie.

Many thanks to the author of this description.

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