La Pinéa from the Orgeval oratory

La Pinéa via the ridge that connects it to Charmant Som.
On a clear day, there is a beautiful view of the Grande Sure, Charmant Som, Chamechaude and Mont-Aiguille.

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 7.00 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 2h 55 
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    Difficulty: Easy

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 334 m
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    Descent: - 340 m

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    Highest point: 1,746 m
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    Lowest point: 1,600 m

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Description of the walk

We start from the Orgeval oratory, which can be reached from the Col de Porte by taking the small road to Charmant Som (D57E closed in winter). There are a few places to park, but on Sunday afternoons when the weather is fine, it is very difficult to find a space nearby.

(S) After descending the road for about a hundred metres, you will see signs forthe GRP® Tour de Chartreuse marked in red and yellow.

(1). Take the path that climbs up to the ridge (towards Plénom).
You will pass in front of the top of the Col de Porte ski lift. The path winds its way up to a place called Plénom.

(2) You will cross the path coming from Col de Porte.
Continue straight ahead; the markings are now only yellow. The slope becomes steeper, you leave the forest and go around the summit to climb up its southern face, which is the easiest, on a very steep path where you can use your hands on the rocks and where it is advisable to look up to find the next mark.

(3) At the summit (1771m), take care: there are vertical faces.

Return via the same route.

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 1,642 m - Descend the road for about a hundred metres
  2. 1 : km 0.16 - alt. 1,635 m - Path climbing up to the ridge (towards Plénon)
  3. 2 : km 2.92 - alt. 1,614 m - You will cross the path coming from Col de Porte.
  4. 3 : km 3.49 - alt. 1,739 m - La Pinéa
  5. S/E : km 7 - alt. 1,642 m

Reviews and comments

4.7 / 5
Based on 16 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.7 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.9 / 5
Route interest
4.5 / 5
Croziflette
Croziflette

Hello
Ah, OK, my mistake, haha, and thank you. I didn't know it was a different path, I hadn't checked.
Actually, I skimmed through the articles about the trail in question and it seemed to me that there were signs prohibiting access, wasn't there?

Have a good day 😀

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Pégourié
Pégourié

@croziflette: this route does not follow the Vermorel trail, which arrives at Charmette (see IGN map). To my knowledge, this trail has never been closed to the public; the owner simply refused to allow a trail race to pass through.

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Croziflette
Croziflette

@Pégourié, has the path finally been reopened by the private owner?

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Pégourié
Pégourié

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 08, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

Hike done in the evening to enjoy the sunset and moonrise with a very clear sky that day: magnificent!
BUT I agree with the last comment: the end is very steep and the start of the descent down the north ridge is right at the edge of the drop.
I think the description "easy" is inappropriate as it is misleading for inexperienced hikers, families or older people: this description is aimed at them. Experienced hikers will be able to interpret the characteristics of the hike and will see that the approach walk is easy.
It should be classified as moderate, and above all, I think a WARNING should be added to the introduction.
Thank you for this description on Visorando! (I don't have time to do it for my own hikes.)

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sebco
sebco

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 01, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike.
The final climb is very steep and can be difficult on the way down.
To descend, we went slightly down the north ridge to reach the small summit below, but be careful , although not technically difficult, it is very dizzying, the drop is really very close. However, the rest of the path seemed easier to us than climbing back down the final ascent. On the other hand, this alternative route is not suitable for children, as the danger is close and real, nor for people who are sensitive to vertigo.

In any case, the view from the summit is magnificent

Only do this in good weather and several days after rain, as the ground must be completely dry to provide sufficient grip.

Thank you for the description and comments.

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Croziflette
Croziflette

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 28, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A short hike that is not particularly difficult for experienced hikers, but may prove challenging for mountain "tourists".
When hiking in the mountains, we know that we may sometimes have to use our hands and pass through areas that can cause vertigo for some people, without the hike being "difficult" or even "moderate".
For the author of a hike, choosing a level of difficulty is not easy. My opinion is quite similar to that of the author; this hike is indeed "easy" for an experienced hiker. But for those who are less experienced, "tourists" or children or adults who are prone to vertigo and/or not very athletic, etc., it may seem a little challenging or even downright difficult.

The ridge path from the oratory to the foot of the face is certainly quite monotonous and extremely easy. A classic forest approach. It's the walking part that, personally, bores me. But sometimes, it clears up and then "wow" ^^ A small break in the trees as you approach reveals the Pinéa in all its beauty.
The end is steeper, with a slope of 30-35° and even 35-40° at the very end, according to geoportail.
You almost need to use your hands to keep your balance, at the very least. Especially since the rock is very slippery in these heavily frequented areas. And there's nothing worse than slippery limestone. Even my best Vibram soles slip on it. Not to be attempted if it's damp/wet (even worse for people who aren't used to it)!
I made my way back via the aerial passage on the north-northeast slope, which is the same level of difficulty but with the added bonus of vertigo for those who are prone to it.

I'm taking advantage of this first comment to make a point (an open door for some, eh?) about something that might be useful to note on each hike description. Because apparently, it's still not ingrained in everyone's minds. And the mountains have become so overcrowded since Covid. So, on a beautiful Sunday, there are lots and lots of people, which is not surprising. Fortunately, most are on the Charmant Som, but there are still people on the Pinéa. (I have lived in the mountains since well before Covid, and like all mountain dwellers, we immediately noticed the difference).

So: it's essential to be humble and know when to turn back. Please, really.
Just because someone tells you it's "easy" doesn't mean it will necessarily be easy for you too.
How many times, when I was starting out, did people say to me, "You'll see, it's not hard at all," and I had to turn back because of a difficulty that I judged at that moment to be unreasonable for me to tackle alone. I went back later, more experienced.
And there, I saw several people who had climbed to the summit finding themselves in difficulty on the way down, one of them in a state of panic. That's how you end up having to call in helicopters, which then take risks (no PGHM operation is without risk) to get you out of trouble.
So if you have any doubts about your physical condition or mental abilities, turn back and/or wait for your loved ones at the foot of the mountain! The view is already pretty good, to be honest.
There's no shame in that, quite the contrary! It shows character to be able to say "no" and "I'll come back when I'm ready"...!

Do less demanding activities and gradually try slightly more difficult ones, but without any danger. There's plenty to do in this regard all around Chartreuse, Vercors, Belledonne, etc., where the views are just as beautiful, if not more so.
Try climbing, it helps some people get over a hurdle (not all of them, mind you).

Honestly, what's the fun in reaching a summit, not even enjoying the view, and then coming back down whining and struggling, even at risk of falling at any moment?
Look at the maps (and learn to read them to see where the cliffs, scree slopes, difficulties, etc. are), use Geoportail and/or their app to see the actual slope angle in addition to the normal map.
Keep in mind that a 25° slope may seem ridiculous on paper, but when you're actually there, with the effort, the altitude, etc., well, suddenly it's not so ridiculous anymore, right? So 30° and above is considered steep.

I know I'm stating the obvious for some people, but obviously not for everyone.

To conclude on a positive note, it is indeed a very nice hike, best done during the week to avoid the crowds. (I deliberately went on a Sunday during the holidays to see if or not it was very busy.)
The view from the summit is splendid. You can see the city a little, but the view towards the Chartreuse can bring a tear to the eye of the emotional. What a refreshing little summit. I stayed there for a good 30-40 minutes, which felt great. Sitting on the edge of a cliff, admiring the view, clearing your mind.
i had two nice encounters, and even though I'm a loner, some of the people I met made me want to chat for a while, which was very pleasant. Thank you if you happen to be reading this ^^ and well done again to the very brave gentleman!
Luckily, there were no noisy groups at the summit when I arrived. Just one quiet lady and the flies and other buzzing insects ^^ How wonderful, people don't stay at the summit lol, good for us, too bad for them hihihi!

So thank you to the author for sharing this

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andrebayle
andrebayle

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 04, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average
Very busy route : No

This year, hikers will agree that the mountain looks more like a widespread mud bath than anything else, which, in some cases, does not make hiking easy, especially on the descent. This also applies to access to La Pinéa. The final ascent and descent are not easy, so caution is required. Apparently, the view is worth seeing, but I couldn't see anything as I was surrounded by clouds.

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Cragnolini
Cragnolini

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 08, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

I have no complaints about gl38's description. I tend to agree with J. F. Meybeck (jfhiajb@viso); for me, the overall difficulty of this hike is "moderate". While the approach is easy and even boring, the final ascent is complicated. It is possible to descend via an alternative route, provided you are not afraid of heights from the outset, at the summit.

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Kicou
Kicou

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 21, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

What a lovely walk, where you can discover many of the peaks in our beautiful region!
The last 100 metres are steep, so take care with young children and dogs.
Thank you to the hikers who wrote the article.
Christophe Tison

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regis220
regis220

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 30, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : Not used / Not applicable
Very busy route : Yes

Beautiful day, perhaps too beautiful as it was quite crowded.
Breathtaking view of Chamechaude.

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Philippe H3.
Philippe H3.

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 14, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average
Very busy route : No

A nice little hike to enjoy the mountain air
The climb to La Pinea is just a little more difficult

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al1manet
al1manet

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 15, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A beautiful hike, starting from the oratory with a circular loop for the return (immediately to the right, following the sign for the pass that descends), but without going all the way down to the pass, instead staying a little above it, turning left, almost going back, and then immediately right just after, cutting the route so that you only have 1.5 km of road to walk to find a path again, which is shorter and more pleasant, especially as you have to climb back up. You can find the path, which is not marked, by looking at a small hiking app, whether it's the one on the website or another one. Even if a tree trunk a little further on cuts across the path, you can easily climb over it and it's very easy. There are fewer views on the way back, but you discover other things, more forest, and it's a little shorter.

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lulol
lulol

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 25, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A pleasant afternoon walk. The ridge is beautiful, and despite a few friends suffering from vertigo and difficulties, we made it to the top.
However, during the "ascent" on the south face, it is a shame that there are paths leading off the climb that are clearly marked enough to cause hesitation. But overall, I recommend it.
The very low ratio of elevation gain to view to effort makes it an enjoyable walk that is definitely worth sharing.
Even if it's not circular, it's very good. Thank you =)
As for the difficulty, you could complain about it being "easy", but with the exception of the last 20 metres, it's justified.

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Les Blaireaux de la Rando
Les Blaireaux de la Rando

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 11, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

a superb view of the Chartreuse mountains

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Eiko38
Eiko38

Overall rating : 2 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 18, 2018
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : Not used / Not applicable
Route interest : ★★☆☆☆ Disappointing

Unfortunately, dogs are not allowed from 15 June to 12 October due to the mountain pasture season.
When will there be a logo on Visorando to indicate whether dogs are allowed or not?

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