Circulars in the Pilat from the Col du Pavezin

Date of your route : Apr 11, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : Yes

too much tarmac at the start between points 3 and 4. You need a GPS, otherwise it's very difficult to find your way

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Date of your route : Feb 27, 2022
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

Beautiful landscapes, quite varied. For my taste, a little too much tarmac, or wide forestry tracks.
But with a good map, it's easy to find alternatives to avoid certain monotonous sections. In particular, I recommend that, from the small pass of Doizieu, instead of following the Neufond forest track, you head north, then east, to reach Scree Rochat, which offers an impressive view of the Rhône valley. From there, you can descend almost due north directly to Le Chatelard. This adds 100 metres of elevation gain, and the descent is a little uncomfortable on the rocks, but the view is worth the detour.
We were able to complete the restricted section between 3 and 4 without any problems, as there are no animals in the pastures in February. You need to follow the route on your phone, as the path is no longer clearly marked. But it's worth it, as long as it's possible, because the Quatregrain plateau is one of the highlights of this hike.
Thanks to the author for this wonderful day.

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Date of your route : Dec 09, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

We had a wonderful hike in the snow! Magnificent, varied landscapes in the forest and in the open.
No particular difficulties, but the length of the route may seem challenging for some.
Thanks to the author for this hike.

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Date of your route : Mar 26, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average
Very busy route : No

Please note that between points 3 and 4, the trail has become private and is no longer accessible.

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Date of your route : Jun 24, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Departure at 10:30 a.m. and return at 6 p.m. Foggy weather, so no view of the Alps . Very few people on this Wednesday, but it must be different on weekends.
To avoid as much tarmac as possible, shortly after the Moussière farm, we took a forest path on the left marked with a solid black line on the map (caution: logging in progress). This leads to the Crêt de Baronnet and, on the right, along it to the Château de Belize via a very good path (not marked on the map). An interesting feature: the cepées (one of which has just collapsed), which are imposing groups of intertwined trees. We were surprised to discover that it is forbidden to cross the Crêt de Quatregrains (between points 3 and 4). Not only is it forbidden, but the owner of the land has cut down trees along nearly 500 metres of the old hiking trail!!! A real massacre . So you have to go back down the road that leads to Grange Rouet to bypass the blocked path (see photo for detour). Picnic in the beautiful forest covering the Crêt de Montivert. The entire walk is pleasant and relatively easy as the entire return journey, from point 9 onwards, is practically flat. We will return to this hike as there are many possible variations. Thank you to the author for this interesting itinerary from several points of view.

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Date of your route : Jun 23, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful walk in Pilat. Due to the privatisation of the path near Belize Castle, it is advisable to avoid passing through points 3 and 4. To do this, when you reach point 2, continue along the road for a few dozen metres and take the path that branches off to the left, visible on the map.
Beautiful paths and trails, very little tarmac (3-4 km maximum).

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Date of your route : May 31, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A lovely circular in Pilat with beautiful views. Be aware that the paths around Belize Castle have been privatised, which alters the route. Thank you for this walk.

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Date of your route : Oct 05, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

At point 5, you need to cross the road. A path immediately climbs up to the right at La Croix de Montvieux, which avoids the tarmac road. Path parallel to the road.

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Date of your route : May 29, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A very pleasant and beautiful walk, which is fairly easy.

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Date of your route : Mar 31, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

I got a bit lost because I'm not very good with the phone and I forgot the printed map.
Overall, it's very good, with a few motorbikes here and there.
You've classified it as "difficult" but that's only because it's long. I think it would be better to downgrade it to average because hikers might be disappointed.
Thanks again

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Date of your route : May 07, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

A pleasant hike that is not too difficult. A lovely inn at the end of the 8 (better than at the start) for lunch with a beautiful view.

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Date of your route : Mar 24, 2018
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

A very pleasant short hike in the heart of Pilat.
I would just like to add a few details:
1) The hike should not be classified as difficult, but at most as moderately difficult. Apart from a small hill at the start, the rest of the hike is fairly flat, and above all, the terrain is very passable
2) The time given seems exaggerated to me. It took us 4 hours and 15 minutes to complete the hike, bearing in mind that we did it at night and it was the first time we had done this walk, so we lost time on the GPS.
Even though I am well aware that we walk faster than most people, I think 5 hours would be a more accurate estimate.
3) There is a very short stretch of road at the start, but after that there is no more, so for me it wasn't really a problem.

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Date of your route : Sep 21, 2017
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

A beautiful, well-shaded hike (pleasant in hot weather) with, for once, almost accurate data (length and elevation gain).
I don't see how anyone could consider it to have too much tarmac, as there are less than 4 km of it, which is well below average for the hikes on offer...
Otherwise, there's no point looking for the ruins of Belize Castle, it's just a point of interest... the same goes for the ruins of La Baronnette (I just saw something that vaguely resembled a remnant of a wall as I was passing by quickly...).

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Date of your route : Dec 10, 2016
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average

Beautiful scenery and nice trails, but too much tarmac for my taste.

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