The Lakes of Chamrousse and the Grand Van

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Or how to tour a ski resort without seeing the slopes, but with a few beautiful lakes and a summit that is much more impressive than the famous Croix de Chamrousse.

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    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 13.20 km
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    Average duration: 6h 35 
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    Difficulty: Difficult

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 998 m
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    Descent: - 996 m

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    Highest point: 2,422 m
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    Lowest point: 1,650 m

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Description of the walk

It is possible to tour the Chamrousse ski area without ever seeing it.
Admittedly, you start at Le Recoin, after parking your car in the cable car car park.

(S/E) You climb to the left of an old ski lift on a grassy slope that is full of flowers in spring (daffodils and elderflower orchids) to reach the Col de l'Aiguille.

(1) A few more minutes to cross the Cargneules and the Casserousse trail (watch out for marmots...) and you leave the ski area for a good while. The trail joins the Tour des Forêts et Lacs de Chamrousse via a long, almost flat crossing.
First, descend into a very wet and flowery depression that was probably a lake when there were still glaciers in the area.
Then climb up the Lac des Pourrettes pass.
This is a fine example of a lake that is gradually filling in... It no longer receives enough water.

(2) After locating the signs, it is easy to find (on the left bank) the trail that climbs to the Brèche Robert Nord. It is the one that is not marked (according to the map).
But it is well marked and climbs higher and higher through the scree. It can be tricky at the start of the season with a thick layer of snow under the Grand Eulier (unnamed peak on the IGN map north of the breach).
At the breach, take a break to admire the Roberts Lakes and enjoy some dried fruit.

(3) Take a good look at the colour of the lakes and the climb to the Col des Lessine before taking the trail that crosses downhill. You will arrive at the lakes... so... what colour are they?

(4) After reaching the bottom of the Lacs chairlift (be careful, it's wet), you will find the signs for the Tour des Forêts et Lacs de Chamrousse to climb up to the Col des Lessines. The climb is as rocky as you could wish for.

(5) Once at the pass, the return trip to the summit is an interesting option, with a 350-metre elevation gain. Admittedly, the trail continues over scree, where you have to be careful not to lose your footing. Higher up, you'll find grassy slopes almost all the way to the summit of Grand Van.

(6) It's definitely worth planning a picnic break up there if it's not too windy.

(5) After descending to the Col des Leissines, take the path on the left that crosses over to the Col de la Botte.

(7) Leave the trailhead on your right and continue straight ahead. Immediately after the pass, the rocks appear to be crushed... Look closely, it looks like cotton... It's asbestos!
As you pass, you will also see one or two small lakes below, under the Pas des Escombailles.
Continue downhill towards a series of small lakes nestled in their stone settings.
Keep your eyes peeled, this is a place where marmots live.

(8) Cross the Col de l'Infernet before plunging back into the wooded area. A break at Lac Achart is a must... if you like crowds...

(9) After the spillway, take the marked trail furthest to the right, which heads south-west and then west. It will take you above the Arselle, then you will cross the Bacha Bouloud ski lift at a flat section (1,857 metres).
Then look for two chairlifts and a double ski lift. Head in that direction.

(10) At the double ski lifts of La Perche, continue towards the Téléski des Dames. Descend on the other side to reach a trail. Cross the road and you will immediately find a trail that descends towards Le Recoin.
There is then a hundred metres or so of uphill walking before you reach the car (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 1,713 m - Cable car car park
  2. 1 : km 0.61 - alt. 1,789 m - Col de l'Aiguille (1815m)
  3. 2 : km 2.32 - alt. 1,807 m - Lac des Pourettes
  4. 3 : km 3.11 - alt. 2,046 m - Lacs Robert
  5. 4 : km 3.99 - alt. 2,003 m - Lacs chairlift
  6. 5 : km 4.43 - alt. 2,105 m - Col des Lessines (2100m)
  7. 6 : km 5.49 - alt. 2,422 m - Grand Van (2448m)
  8. 7 : km 7.3 - alt. 2,164 m - Col de la Botte (2166m)
  9. 8 : km 8.59 - alt. 2,011 m - Col de l'Infernet (1994m)
  10. 9 : km 9.22 - alt. 1,917 m - Lac Achard (Belledonne)
  11. 10 : km 11.49 - alt. 1,800 m - Perche ski lifts
  12. S/E : km 13.2 - alt. 1,715 m - Cable car car park

Notes

Variation:
(7) At Col de la Botte, there is a direct return option to Chamrousse via Col des 3 Fontaines. This may be useful in case of bad weather.

Check whether the cable car is running. This could be useful in case of bad weather, for example.
Chamrousse weather:

This route passes through a protected area, which may be subject to special regulations:

Reviews and comments

4.6 / 5
Based on 28 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.4 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.5 / 5
Route interest
4.9 / 5
User 9253834

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 08, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A beautiful walk, Les Van remains a "piece" that I had only ever done on touring skis... Lots of ibex on Les Van, both small and large. Indeed, there is no need to park right at the top of the resort, as the return journey is via Roche-Bé

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juliebzh
juliebzh
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 29, 2025
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Great hike with early autumn colours. The succession of different lakes makes the hike very enjoyable and the scenery is well worth it. The hike remains challenging as the path is relatively steep with some rocky sections, particularly on the return trip to the van. Be careful, as it can be very slippery in wet weather, and some sections are already slippery in dry weather. It is possible to skip the return trip, but the hike is still very beautiful!
Surprisingly, the distance on two devices showed us more than 15 km compared to 13 km on another, as indicated in the description. So it may be a little longer than indicated.

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Nourss38
Nourss38

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 15, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A varied and enjoyable hike with lots of lakes.
Quite a few people around the lakes, but not too many, and we were almost alone at the summit.
Beautiful view on arrival of La Meije and Les Grandes Rousses (if I'm not mistaken ;-)).

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Croziflette
Croziflette
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Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 14, 2025
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : Yes

Hello
I wanted to see what the Combe du Grand Van looked like before trying ski touring there next winter. Too steep for me on skis ^^
It was very busy in mid-July, so I deliberately set off late (11 a.m.) to avoid the crowds at the summit and take a gamble on the weather, which paid off haha.

The hike took 5 hours including breaks, but bear in mind that I climb faster than I descend, and I didn't take the puddle on the way up, having already been there once on the way down. Today, the path between the puddle and the Robert lakes is "closed" to allow nature to reclaim its rights. So it's not maintained, with some sections so worn that it's like a skating rink at the slightest hint of dew.
So I don't think the 6 hours and a bit indicated are an exaggeration for most people. The slowest might take 7 hours, I don't know.

I gave it a 4 for interest, but that's because I know it and because it's too busy. I've already done the Grand Sorbier loop, alone in the world after the lakes, but that's another level... and another time, just the loop passing through Croix de Chamrousse in maintenance mode (totally uninteresting ^^).

Almost no one at the top.
Let's talk about the people who throw their perfume bottles at each other's heads to go to the mountains... Do they think they're at the opera? I feel like throwing up every time I see a tourist, not to mention thinking that these idiots are scaring the animals away...
Anyway, sorry for the digression, I had to get that off my chest. 😮💨

Nice hike anyway.

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Anibac
Anibac

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 19, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

I completed the entire hike, which allowed me to discover the famous Robert Lakes and achieve a small personal feat by reaching the Grand Van. Discovering lakes along the route was very enjoyable. There were lots of people along the entire route between the Robert Lakes and Achard Lake. Otherwise, before the Robert Lakes and when climbing the Grand Van, there were only a few hikers.
I had some difficulty finding the start of the trail from the car park to access the meadow. I also struggled a bit to reach the Grand Van in the middle of the scree without straying too far (the GPS was a great help). The picnic at the Grand Van, with no wind and no other hikers, was absolutely perfect. It was a stark contrast to the many hikers on the rest of the trail.
This hike is quite demanding in the first third, but after that it's just a stroll along paths.
However, I don't understand why it took me 8 hours, including breaks, to complete the hike. It's unusual for me to take longer than the estimated time. Luckily, I left early and daylight saving time hadn't started yet.
Thank you very much for this hike suggestion!

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jean895
jean895

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 16, 2024
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

Beautiful hike. Varied landscapes. A bit challenging at the end for those who like it. A good part of it can be done on snowshoes, except perhaps the final stretch, the climb up to the Grand Van, and it must be very beautiful under the snow.

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carolineh
carolineh

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 21, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A lovely walk offering beautiful views.

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Astrid3842
Astrid3842

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 08, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A beautiful hike starting from Chamrousse.
Be aware that in summer the resort is very busy and parking can be difficult!
A beautiful route that starts on the slopes, then takes a short detour along a pretty path under the pine trees, before climbing up to Les Vans in the typical rocky landscape of Belledonne.
From Grand Van, the view of the Robert lakes is magnificent!
Don't forget to take a detour to the Petit Van, where you can enjoy views of the Romanche Valley.
There are no significant difficulties, except for the descent from the Grand Van to the Col des Lessines, which can sometimes be tricky in the scree. Walking sticks are highly recommended!
A beautiful hike that I highly recommend.

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DayWalker
DayWalker

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Feb 20, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

Hike done in the opposite direction, with snowshoes, without climbing the Gran Van, in 8.5 hours (including breaks).
Between the Col de Lessines and the Col de l'Infernet, the snow can be slippery depending on conditions, with a slope that requires walking on a slope: walking poles are highly recommended.

From Achart Lake, in order to stay on the ski trails, be sure to follow the snowshoe routes, even if this means straying slightly from the hike trail

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MXDMXD
MXDMXD

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 11, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A beautiful hike with few people along the way. The lakes are very popular with hikers from Grenoble.
We love the 360° view from the top of Grand Van
It's a shame that the starting point is a bit surprising... (I suggest parking at the station car park instead.)
A beautiful walk reserved for those accustomed to long walks and steep climbs.

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Deuxpattes
Deuxpattes

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 23, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

We repeated this outing because we had to abandon it halfway through in 2018, due to fog, among other things. It must be our curse, because it was another foggy day, with wind and a drop in temperature to 9°C!
No view at all along the route
We didn't even get close to the Grand Van, which was shrouded in fog from top to bottom

However, we did have two short breaks in the weather at Lacs Robert (which was a beautiful green colour) and Lac Achard....

Shall we try a third time? To be continued...

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gg63
gg63

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 11, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

the large van for the ibexes.

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X DE LA BACE
X DE LA BACE

Overall rating : 3.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 18, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★☆☆ Average
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

Nice hike... even if it was a bit crowded.
The description is unnecessarily complicated at the beginning: once you reach the Col de l'Aiguille, it's easier to say: turn right, follow the signs for Lac des Pourettes. The times mentioned on the signs are misleading: add 15 to 20 minutes... and I'm a fast walker.
Blueberry variation: at the Col de l'Aiguille, take the path that climbs to the left, then dive into the woods following the ridge line. You will come to a signposted snowshoe trail. There you will find a field of wild blueberries; descend and you will come to a fork, take the right and you will find yourself facing the Col de l'Aiguille.
The climb to the Grand Van is for those who enjoy scree.

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JCQ
JCQ

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 11, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

Having always descended via the northern pass, we can confirm that it is worth taking this route on the way up, with a majestic arrival at the Robert lakes.

The detour via the Grand Van received mixed reviews (despite the signage now being correct and there being no problems on the way up): it is worth doing for those who enjoy aerial views (e.g. of the Robert lakes) and impressive panoramas of the surrounding mountains (the heart of Belledonne, the Grand Rousses, the Meije, etc.), useless for those who cannot appreciate the final view due to vertigo and who do not like scree (the trail is fine, but the grassy slopes are limited to a few metres at times, nothing like the summit of Grand Colon at a similar altitude, for example).

We didn't complete the circuit and went back up to the Croix cable car because of a storm (which also made the descent from the Grand Van unpleasant due to strong gusts of wind and dust).

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jeanclaude26
jeanclaude26

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 23, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

Hello
we did part of this route yesterday, but due to the heat we stopped at La Croix de Chamrousse and took the cable car down... This is a useful alternative. From the corner, the climb up to the mountain pasture is quite steep, but the crossing to Lac des Pourrettes is well shaded and almost flat, which is very welcome. As for the climb to the breach, the path is well marked and now signposted. The view of the Robert lakes is superb. We didn't go to the Grand Van, stopping at the first grassy plateau. The descent is quite tricky for my liking, but access to the Col de la Botte is easy and from there it's no problem to reach La Croix. For the cable car descent, tickets must be purchased at the ticket office in Le Recoin, but it is possible to take the cable car without a ticket if you pay at the bottom. The descent alone costs €7

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