Petit and Grand Charnier from the small pass

Le Grand Charnier is the peak overlooking the Collet d'Allevard resort. You can climb it via a very scenic walk, which follows the ridge for almost the entire route, and the summit offers magnificent views of all the surrounding mountain ranges.
For those prone to vertigo, see the ‘Practical Information’ section
Moderator’s note : some sections are considered very difficult; see reviews

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 12.15 km
  • ◔
    Average duration: 7h 00 
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    Difficulty: Difficult

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 1,226 m
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    Descent: - 1,221 m

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    Highest point: 2,554 m
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    Lowest point: 1,639 m

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Description of the walk

Start from the Super Collet car park (at the top of the Collet d'Allevard resort).

(S/E) From the car park, take the main track that runs alongside the Plagnes chairlift. Continue along this track, which soon moves away from the chairlift, to the Col de l’Occiput.

(1) At the pass, the track turns right: continue along it towards Les Plagnes. When you reach Les Plagnes, do not take the first track on the left which leads to the chairlift terminus. Take the second track on the left which joins the ridge where there is a signpost.

(2) A path runs along the entire length of the ridge: follow it until you descend to the Col de Claran.

(3) At the pass, continue straight on along an unmarked but clearly visible path that follows the ridge line. Shortly afterwards, you will reach a three-way junction: one path veers left along the ridge, whilst another leaves the ridge and continues straight on down the mountainside.

(4) Take the left-hand path which climbs up the ridge to reach the Petit Charnier.

(5) From the summit of the Petit Charnier, there is a section where the path is poorly marked or even absent. Make sure you spot the path to the Grand Charnier: it is visible below, until it meets a ridge of the Grand Charnier. This point serves as an easy landmark for finding your way in the off-trail section.
Continue to follow the ridge line until you descend to the Col du Gollet.
Caution: some slightly tricky sections require the use of your hands.

(6) The pass consists of a scree slope: descend it to the right (west) for a few metres, then veer left (south-west) and walk off-trail along the mountainside towards the landmark identified earlier (the base of the Grand Charnier ridge). Staying roughly level (as far as the terrain allows), you’ll reach the Grand Charnier path just below the ridge or a few metres before it.

(7) Then begin the ascent of the Grand Charnier, which is very steep but always follows a well-marked path. There are only a few rocky sections where the path is not visible; you must therefore be careful and spot where it resumes after the rocks.

(8) At the summit of the Grand Charnier, enjoy the view! Then descend via the same route to the previous junction at the foot of the ridge where the very steep ascent begins.

(7) On the return journey, do not go back via the Petit Charnier: simply follow the path, which rejoins the outward route at the junction before the Col de Claran.

(4) Continue straight on to the Col de Claran.

(3) At the pass, do not climb back up the ridge but take a slightly descending path to the left towards the Pierre du Carré refuge (signposted). Turn left at the first junction, still heading towards the refuge, until you reach another junction just above the refuge.

(9) Turn right towards Super Collet. Continue along this path until it crosses a ridge line: at this point you can see the resort’s chairlifts again, and the path becomes a wider track that branches off to the right.

(10) Do not take the main piste: continue straight on along a path that follows the ridge line. Follow this path to the end. When it emerges from the forest, turn right to return to the starting point (S/E) via the resort’s main pistes.

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 1,642 m - Super Collet car park
  2. 1 : km 1.3 - alt. 1,870 m - Col de l'Occiput
  3. 2 : km 2.69 - alt. 2,076 m - Les Plagnes orientation table
  4. 3 : km 4.23 - alt. 1,957 m - Col de Claran
  5. 4 : km 4.46 - alt. 2,008 m - Crossing at Petit Charnier
  6. 5 : km 4.89 - alt. 2,179 m - Petit Charnier
  7. 6 : km 5.27 - alt. 2,098 m - Col du Gollet
  8. 7 : km 5.55 - alt. 2,082 m - Below the Grand Charnier
  9. 8 : km 6.39 - alt. 2,554 m - Grand Charnier
  10. 9 : km 9.59 - alt. 1,786 m - Crossroads
  11. 10 : km 10.81 - alt. 1,806 m - Crête de l'Evêque
  12. S/E : km 12.15 - alt. 1,642 m - Super Colle car park

Notes

Avoid this hike if you suffer from vertigo!

If you wish to avoid the steep climb to Petit Charnier and/or the off-trail section between Petit and Grand Charnier, you can go from (4 to 7) via the return route, where the path is clearly marked.

Worth a visit

From the summit of the Grand Charnier, the view to the south is partially blocked by a secondary peak a few metres lower. If you’re frustrated at not being able to see the whole valley, you can climb this second peak by staying on the ridge line. It doesn’t take long (10 minutes) but some sections are quite exposed: you’ll need to use your hands and not be afraid of heights! It’s still just hiking, though – no climbing required.

Reviews and comments

4.3 / 5
Based on 5 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.2 / 5
Ease of following the route
4 / 5
Route interest
4.8 / 5
Picson06230
Picson06230
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 25, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A lovely hike for experienced, fit walkers in good weather.
I only climbed the Grand Charnier, which I reached via the path between points 4 and 6, as indicated; this path is not very wide when meeting oncoming walkers.
For those who are tired, it is possible to avoid the Crête de l’évêque by joining the ascent path from point 10.

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Paul GARILLON
Paul GARILLON

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 19, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

The hike was undertaken by a group of 10 people and was limited to the Petit Charnier route only (11 km and 904 m of elevation gain, IBP rating of 109), with a section rated 6 to 7. That alone makes it a great hike.
S/E: the Plagnes chairlift is now called “CLARAN” but you can’t go wrong with the route.
From the summit of the Petit Charnier (5), we reached the Col du Gollet by taking an easy gully to the right, 30–50m past the summit just before the first slab of rock.
From point 10, the Arête de l’Evèque proves to be long and tedious but is largely shaded. The path that branches off to the left into the forest (recommended in hot weather) joins the ridge path fairly quickly.
For the Grand Charnier, the route via the Petit Charnier is of interest only from a sporting perspective.

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Mbar2
Mbar2
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Hello
I am very surprised by the strong language you are using: “the recommended route is dangerous and pointless” and “adding the little one’s route is irresponsible”.

Admittedly, this route isn’t for beginners, but as a 58-year-old average hiker, I didn’t find it difficult. What’s more, getting off the beaten track is a bonus.

Thanks again to the author for sharing this.

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abruti
abruti

I’m 60 years old, I go hiking from time to time, and I’ve done the Petit and Grand Charnier route: it’s a bit of a physical challenge, but not impossible – in fact, I came across several other people on the same route that day.
Perhaps you were tired that day, which is why you found it so difficult???

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irenelrl
irenelrl

Overall rating : 2 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 13, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★☆☆☆☆ Very disappointing
Ease of following the route : ★☆☆☆☆ Very disappointing
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

The recommended route is dangerous and pointless, as the view from the summit of the Petit Charnier is not as good as that from the Grand Charnier or Les Plagnes, and it forces you to descend off-trail along a very steep, barely passable path which, moreover, is difficult to follow based on the directions provided. Not to mention the damage caused to the ecosystem by the unmarked steps. For a day’s walk, as the ascent of the Grand Charnier is itself very physically demanding, adding the Petit Charnier is irresponsible even for a seasoned hiker. Following the ridge path that passes beneath the Petit Charnier is more than enough!

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Mbar2
Mbar2

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 24, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

For the average hiker:
Departure by car 9.30 am – Petit Charnier summit 11.15 am – Grand Charnier summit 12.45 pm
Descent 2.15pm – Arrival at car 4.30pm
My GPS shows: 13km +1450m

/!\ Only attempt this walk if it hasn’t snowed yet, as there are numerous steep, north-facing sections (icy snow). If it has snowed, take crampons.

The descent from Petit Charnier is complicated by the marked path. I preferred to join the path leading up to Grand Charnier by taking an easy gully to the right, 50m past the summit just before the first rock slab.

In my opinion, for the return journey, at point 7 it is better to go back the same way as on the way up via the ridges (the view is much better, the path less strenuous and the elevation gain equivalent) than to take the path as shown on the map. The only exception is if it is very hot, as the path on the map is through the forest.

Thanks to gbenouville for this guide

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abruti
abruti

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 18, 2021
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A magnificent hike thanks to the views along the entire route, but best suited to those already accustomed to the mountains: it’s very physically demanding (there are numerous sections where you’ll need to use your hands, a few parts where you need to be sure-footed as the path is steep on both sides, and a trail with almost no flat sections where you can rest).
But an absolute must if you regularly hike in the mountains!

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