From the Ourcq to the Forest of Retz

This hike takes place largely under the tall trees of the Retz Forest. It also passes through the village of Oigny-en-Valois, nestled in a vast clearing with its rich monumental heritage: the castle, the church and the Charpentier Mausoleum, in particular.

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  • Walking
    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 21.26 km
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    Average duration: 6h 50 
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    Difficulty: Difficult

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 268 m
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    Descent: - 263 m

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    Highest point: 158 m
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    Lowest point: 65 m

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Description of the walk

The hike starts at the car park on Avenue de la Gare in La Ferté-Milon.

(S/E) Head towards the level crossing.

GR® markings (red and white)

Turn left, cross the level crossing and continue along Rue de la Chaussée until you reach the crossroads. Cross Rue de la Chaussée at the pedestrian crossing and continue along Rue des Galets. At the top of the hill, turn right into Rue de Bourcq.

(1) Continue along this street, which turns into a farm track and then a path at the entrance to a wood. This path descends into a small valley where it turns right in front of a pond. At the crossroads, at the corner of the pond, theGR®11continues straight ahead.

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(2) Leave theGR® and turn left. The path turns left 200 metres further on to cross the dyke separating two ponds. Continue to the right in front of the large building. The path follows the bottom of the valley to join a tarmac forest road at a 180° bend.

(3) Turn left to continue following the bottom of the valley along the forest road. After about 1.5 kilometres, at the stop sign, turn left onto the D1380 to follow forest plot 1030.

(4) At the crossroads 400 metres further on, turn right onto the track separating plots 1023 and 1028.
At the next crossroads, continue straight ahead, slightly to the right, between plots 1019 and 1020 until you reach a junction with a tarmac forest road.

(5) Cross the road and continue straight ahead along the path crossing plot 968. This path leads to a star-shaped crossroads where the Route Droite passes (see sign). This is the Carrefour des Tourneurs, which is not signposted on site.

(6) Turn sharply into the first track on the right that crosses plot 968. After one kilometre, pass Carrefour Loliée. Continue along this track (called Laie du Puits des Sarrasins) until you reach the edge of the forest, where you turn slightly left onto a farm track.

GR® trail markers (red and white)

(7) Continue straight ahead to enter Oigny-en-Valois via Rue des Bourgeois. This road turns left (it is not marked on this section). You will pass the village church with its small cemetery, where the Charpentier Mausoleum is located. Turn right onto Rue Saint-Antoine (where you will find theGR® markings again), which ends in a cul-de-sac in front of a property gate.

(8) Continue straight ahead along the grassy path running alongside the large hedge surrounding this property. The path descends into the forest to the Carrefour du Fond d'Enfer (sign fixed to a tree trunk).

(9) Take the second path on the left. The path continues downhill, passing a pond visible on the left through the vegetation, then turns right to follow the bottom of the valley. At the crossroads, 200 metres after the turn, theGR® turns right.

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(10) Continue straight ahead for 400 metres to the next crossroads, where you turn left to cross the bottom of the valley, passing in front of a pond. Then turn right onto a path that climbs up the hillside 200 metres further on. After a short stretch on the plateau, the path descends again to reach the D17 at the entrance to the hamlet of Le Buchet. Turn right onto the D17 towards the first house.

(11) Turn sharply left onto the grassy path in front of it. After 100 metres, turn right onto the path leading down into the valley. It crosses a marshy area, then climbs up to the plateau in wide curves. It continues across fields in a south-south-westerly direction to the village of Troësnes, where it ends at a crossroads in front of the town hall.

(12) Turn right onto Rue du Moulin (D79) and continue to the crossroads in front of the old Silly-la-Poterie railway station.

(13) Turn left into the lane leading to the Port-aux-Perches boat launch ramp. Turn right to pass in front of the Port-aux-Perches river station and then follow the towpath along the canal. Turn right at the footbridge to join the D17 in front of a pumping station.

GR® trail markers (red and white)

(14) Cross the D17, then turn left into the gravel lane going up to the right of Rue du Chemin Vert. This will take you past the Château de Silly-la-Poterie. Turn left and go back down into the valley. At the junction of Rue de l'Abbé Latz and Rue Louis Toulot, take a look at the stone commemorating Abbé Latz. TheGR®11turns right.

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(15) Continue straight downhill to the D17. Cross the road and take the grassy path opposite leading to the Canal de l'Ourcq near the Mosloy footbridge.

(16) Turn right and continue along the towpath until you reach Rue de la Cité de la Ferté-Milon.

(17) At the bridge, turn right. After another 500 metres, you will arrive at the car park on Avenue de la Gare (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 68 m - Avenue de la Gare car park - Gare de La Ferté-Milon
  2. 1 : km 0.42 - alt. 99 m - Rue du Bourcq
  3. 2 : km 1.88 - alt. 76 m - Corner of the pond
  4. 3 : km 3.44 - alt. 96 m - 180° bend on a forest road
  5. 4 : km 5.15 - alt. 127 m - Take the path between plots 1023 and 1028.
  6. 5 : km 6.62 - alt. 155 m - Tarmac forest road, go straight ahead
  7. 6 : km 7.21 - alt. 126 m - Carrefour des Tourneurs
  8. 7 : km 8.24 - alt. 157 m - Edge of the forest, GR marked trail
  9. 8 : km 9.3 - alt. 146 m - Dead end, follow the long hedge
  10. 9 : km 9.98 - alt. 113 m - Carrefour du Fond d'Enfer
  11. 10 : km 10.84 - alt. 79 m - The GR turns right, continue at the bottom of the valley.
  12. 11 : km 12.45 - alt. 75 m - Hamlet of Le Buchet
  13. 12 : km 14.49 - alt. 81 m - Troësnes Town Hall
  14. 13 : km 15.14 - alt. 68 m - Former Silly-la-Poterie station
  15. 14 : km 15.81 - alt. 75 m - Pumping station
  16. 15 : km 17.36 - alt. 107 m - The memorial stone of Abbé Latz
  17. 16 : km 18.21 - alt. 67 m - Mosloy footbridge
  18. 17 : km 20.81 - alt. 66 m - Bridge - Canal de l'Ourcq
  19. S/E : km 21.26 - alt. 68 m - Avenue de la Gare car park - Gare de La Ferté-Milon

Notes

You can get to the start of this hike by public transport, as it begins at La Ferté-Milon station. For timetables, click here.

Hiking boots. Please note that the paths can be very muddy in winter.

To see all the photos from this route, click here.
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Worth a visit

On the way back, a stop at Port-aux-Perches allows you to discover the beginning of the Canal de l'Ourcq. In La Ferté-Milon, a lock and the old town add to the interest of this route.

The Ourcq Canal.

Oigny-en-Valois.

La Ferté-Milon: its castle, St-Nicolas Church, Notre-Dame Church, Jean Racine Museum.
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Always be cautious and plan ahead when you're outdoors. Visorando and the author of this route cannot be held responsible for any accidents occurring on this route.

The GR® and PR® markings are the intellectual property of the Fédération Française de Randonnée Pédestre.

Reviews and comments

4.4 / 5
Based on 10 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.4 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.4 / 5
Route interest
4.3 / 5
SABISA
SABISA

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Feb 06, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★☆☆ Average
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good
Very busy route : No

Unable to complete the route. Path behind Bourcq farm impassable. Had to change route.

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Marjorie Marc
Marjorie Marc

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Nov 09, 2022
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : Not used / Not applicable
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A lovely route that takes us through the beautiful forests of Retz, then the village of Oigny en Valois.
I encountered two problems on this route. The first is between points 2 and 3, where the path that leaves before the Bourcq farm and runs alongside the pond is impassable due to vegetation that has invaded the trail. I recommend continuing along the small road that passes in front of the farm and turning onto the first path on the right, which leads to point 3. The second is between points 10 and 11, where there are two trees lying across the path, making it a little tricky to pass. You just need to climb up a little to get over them, but you still have to step over the trunks to reach the GRP, which is not marked at all.
Marjorie

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epoque
epoque

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 20, 2022
Reliability of the description : Not used / Not applicable
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

Thanks to hemadi for this walk, which I did for the first time two years ago. The Retz forest is a haven of freshness and tranquillity where nature is reclaiming its rights in certain areas. In particular, at the Bourcq farm after marker 2, there is now no point in looking for the path that follows the bottom of the valley if you have left your brush cutter at home. I got around the obstacle by taking a 2 km detour via Silly-la-Poterie to reach marker 3. Then I put on some overtrousers over my shorts a few kilometres further on. I didn't meet anyone until Port aux Perches, then some walkers on the Ourcq Canal towpath when I arrived at La Ferté-Milon.

Regarding the review posted by brigittepp on 10 October 2019: "poorly marked", this walk takes place partly off the beaten track. Unlike a route that is fully marked by FFRandonnée volunteers, there is no guarantee that you will find your way from one year to the next.

The review posted by Delaportex on Monday 8 August 2022 leaves me perplexed:
- To get from Ourcq to the Forest of Retz, I never crossed the old N2 motorway.
- you only need to enter Vaumoise into any geographical search engine to see that Delaportex passed several kilometres north of the route described.
I would be grateful if a moderator could remove this review, unless they have the courage to research which route Delaportex actually took. Learning to think before typing would prevent the internet from becoming a public waste dump.

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Netra
Netra ★

Hello Brigitte, and thank you for your comments.

Neither the author of the hike nor Visorando are responsible for the lack of signage on site.

However, we can try to improve the description that you found disappointing. Does the comment "difficult to follow the directions" apply to the entire route or to specific sections? Thank you in advance for your clarification.

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brigittepp
brigittepp
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Overall rating : 3.3 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 08, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★☆☆☆ Disappointing
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

Poor signage... difficult to follow the directions.

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vdidry1
vdidry1

Overall rating : 3.7 / 5

Date of your route : Aug 19, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average

We adjusted the length of the hike according to our availability (and our abilities). A beautiful walk in this forest massif. A few comments:
At marker 2, the overflow from one of the ponds turns into a cesspool that is difficult to cross, even in dry weather such as this July. A few flat stones would suffice...
After marker 2 and the Bourcq farm, "Continue to the right in front of the large building. The path follows the bottom of the valley..." If there ever was a path, it is no longer there. Brambles, nettles, uprooted trees and fairly dense vegetation slowed us down considerably. It was only when we reached the bottom of the valley and entered the undergrowth that we were able to find a real path.

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breithorn
breithorn

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 24, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★☆ Good

Beautiful hike, thanks to Hemadi for his clear and precise description. Fortunately, because on the ground it's a different story!!!!
The paths are not maintained and have almost disappeared, particularly between points 2 and 3 where you have to turn right in front of the house. The same goes for the forest, where the paths are no longer maintained and are overgrown (even the GR!!). The passage through the marsh between points 11 and 12 is like an obstacle course with trees blocking the way. In short, you need to have a spirit of adventure! And above all, you need to be equipped with proper hiking gear: long trousers for the overgrown paths and Goretex shoes for the numerous wet sections, even in June. Take a little time to explore the village of Oigny, which is well worth a visit. We were also rewarded during this hike with a superb 10-point stag on the plateau after the marsh between points 11 and 12.

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Mysterdub
Mysterdub

Overall rating : 4 / 5

Date of your route : Jul 08, 2017
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★☆☆ Average

Several sections of the path are disappearing: between points 2 and 3, progress is difficult: dead wood, brambles, thistles, nettles up to thigh height at times. Without the GPS track, you might doubt you were on the path. Between points 4 and 7, the path is also closing in, and you have to walk through knee-high grass.
The whole area is quite wet, even on this 8th of July.

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lionel75011
lionel75011

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 11, 2017
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

Indeed, some paths are covered by vegetation and sometimes difficult to access. From point 2 to 3, there are many trees cut across the path, and from point 4 to 5, the path is completely closed off and covered by vegetation, which adds to the hiking experience. Personally, I like it.
Very beautiful forest.
thank you for this route.
Lionel

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weidenfeldm
weidenfeldm

Overall rating : 4.7 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 05, 2017
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

CAUTION: some paths are partially covered by vegetation and are now little more than vague trails... but it was still enjoyable.

Only to be attempted after a dry spell as it is very, very wet.

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webmarc
webmarc

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 10, 2016
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

Please note that the passage in section 2 is obstructed by trees that have been cut down and left lying on the path.
A very beautiful hike through a very beautiful forest.

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