Cirque de Saint-Même: Waterfalls and Cave via the Pas Ruat

The Cirque de Saint-Même is very popular in summer, with most visitors content to picnic on the meadows or follow the marked waterfall route. The short circular route proposed extends this route with a climb to an additional waterfall and the Source du Guiers Vif, via the steep Pas Ruat passage with its astonishing under-rock passage leading out in front of the Grotte du Guiers Vif. (¹) See During the hike or nearby

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    Activity: Walking
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    Distance: 4.21 km
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    Duration according to the author: 3 hrs 
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    Difficulty: Very difficult

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    Back to start: Yes
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    Ascent: + 365 m
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    Descent: - 361 m

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    Highest point: 1,150 m
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    Lowest point: 852 m

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Description of the walk

Go up from Saint-Pierre d'Entremont (Savoie), reached from Les Échelles and Le Pas du Frou or from Chambéry and Le Col du Granier, cross the hamlets of Saint-Même via the D45c and park in one of the many car parks located before the barrier prohibiting access to the site.

(S/E) Go through the barrier and follow the road towards the chalet. You can either cross the Pont Drugey bridge and walk up the left bank of the Guiers Vif or stay on the right bank. Cross the entire alluvial plain to the footbridge at the bottom of Saint-Même.

From this footbridge, walk up the left bank for the last few metres to the first waterfall, the Pisse du Guiers.

(1) Return, cross the footbridge and walk down the right bank for 100 metres to find the junction with the path leading up to the other waterfalls.

(2) The climb is quite steep in the forest, with hairpin bends and then a traverse to the south, until you reach a sign at 1035m.

(3) Continue climbing (sign indicating a difficult mountain trail) via the Pas de la Mort route and, at the first hairpin bend, turn right to descend slightly towards the Guiers before reaching the upper waterfall, the Source du Guiers.

Climb up the scree cone on the right bank and take the section equipped with a cable (chimney then aerial ledge on the right) which allows you to reach the top of the waterfall, where the Guiers usually resurfaces (except during floods).

Enter the upstream cave (small passage equipped with a cable), cross it through chaotic boulders and, at the exit, climb up a cable ledge on the right. You will reach the threshold facing the imposing Grotte du Guiers Vif.

(4) You can visit this cave by climbing up a small footbridge on the right and returning by the same path.

The return journey begins with a climb eastwards up a small rocky ridge equipped with a chain, followed by an easier path along the hillside, which joins the Pas de la Mort path. Descend this path to the left until you reach the junction you passed on the way up.

(3) Take the marked trail down to the Grande Cascade, cross the footbridge and descend into the forest to the junction signposted Cascade Isolée.

(5) Make a round trip south to visit this waterfall, then continue down the steady descent through the forest. This leads to the cirque's meadows, where the return journey is easy: cross the footbridges to reach the chalet opposite or turn left to take the Pont Drugey (S/E).

Waypoints

  1. S/E : km 0 - alt. 852 m - Cirque de Saint-Même car park
  2. 1 : km 0.8 - alt. 894 m - Pisse du Guiers Waterfall
  3. 2 : km 1.04 - alt. 865 m - Start of the climb to the Grande Cascade
  4. 3 : km 1.64 - alt. 1,047 m - Crossroads 1030m
  5. 4 : km 1.88 - alt. 1,134 m - Cave and source of the - Guiers Vif (rivière)
  6. 5 : km 2.72 - alt. 943 m - Isolated Waterfall Crossing
  7. S/E : km 4.21 - alt. 852 m - Cirque de Saint-Même car park

Notes

Access to Saint-Même is subject to a toll in summer in order to regulate traffic and organise parking.

The Pas Ruat is not passable during high water, as the passage may be used by secondary flows.

PLEASE NOTE: the footbridge leading to the cave at (4) was damaged by a landslide in July 2023: a mayoral decree currently prohibits access.
The rest of the circular route remains passable, without visiting the Grotte du Guiers Vif.

This route passes through a protected area, which may be subject to special regulations:

Worth a visit

The waterfalls are the highlight of a visit to the Cirque de Saint-Même: the circular route takes you to four waterfalls, whose appearance changes greatly depending on the flow of the Guiers Vif.

(¹) The Pas Ruat is a unique route as it crosses a temporary resurgence from one side to the other and emerges above the passageway. The technical nature of the passageway, which is equipped with cables, means that it is not suitable for all walkers.

The Grotte du Guiers opens onto a large porch and includes a vast area that can be visited without any special equipment and even without bending down: you can follow a triangular route with a simple torch, entering the gallery on the left and returning via the one on the right.
For those who want more and are equipped accordingly, it is possible to descend to the active network or explore the Marmites gallery.

Reviews and comments

4.8 / 5
Based on 6 reviews

Reliability of the description
4.8 / 5
Ease of following the route
4.7 / 5
Route interest
5 / 5
never4nr
never4nr
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Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 11, 2023
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

A hike worth doing! For my part, I turned back after the first chaotic blocks in the cave upstream of Pas Ruat because my partner couldn't accompany me into Pas Ruat.
Let's be clear, from Pas Ruat onwards, it's a via ferrata without a harness or carabiner (and therefore without the associated safety features). If you've never done a via ferrata before or have been scared on one in the past, don't go beyond the foot of the Source du Guiers waterfall. If you suffer from severe vertigo, don't even go beyond the danger sign (point 3) and follow the main path to the large waterfall. To illustrate: here is Pas Ruat, the man in the photo has to climb 2 metres up the wall by pulling himself up on a metal chain.
The trail is not very useful, as your GPS will not be accurate in the forest and caves (nor is the route, especially between points 3 and 4).
Since a rockslide and the municipal decree of 20 July 2023 (which can be found at danger sign 3 and on Altituderando, thanks to
JCParavy ), it is forbidden to take the footbridge leading to the Guiers Vif cave. As I understand it, this does not prevent you from doing the 3-4-3 circular route.

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richard71000
richard71000

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Jun 20, 2022
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : Yes

Visiting the cave after Pas Ruat requires a headlamp. There are no markers.
Go straight ahead to the back of the cave after a pillar, then turn left and walk 200 or 300 metres through a wide tunnel that ends at the entrance to the cave.
Then follow the route described
route taken on 10/06/22

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Bourachot
Bourachot

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : May 23, 2020
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good
Very busy route : No

A very beautiful hike with an excellent balance between interest and effort. Highly recommended.

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Mimizen38
Mimizen38

Overall rating : 5 / 5

Date of your route : Oct 14, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★★ Very good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★★ Very good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A beautiful hike for those who are not afraid of heights (avoid in rainy weather for the Pas du Ruat).
The setting is magnificent.

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Michel S.
Michel S.

Overall rating : 4.3 / 5

Date of your route : Sep 02, 2019
Reliability of the description : ★★★★☆ Good
Ease of following the route : ★★★★☆ Good
Route interest : ★★★★★ Very good

A beautiful hike with a challenging climb at the Pas du Ruat.
We didn't see signpost 1035. You need good footwear because the path is littered with large roots.
Do the dangerous trail before tackling the big waterfall.
The descent leads to the footbridge opposite the first chalet restaurant (friendly welcome) (take the other direction if you want a gentler climb).

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